I keep reading what everyone is saying about government and
insurance, but I don't really believe you. Most of you say that you are
against the government getting involved in health care, that it is a
Socialist idea. What I haven't heard is any of you saying you wanted to stop
Medicare or
History should be a guide; not a box. Our country has proven that our
system of government and its attitude towards the free market is
unmatched by any other system of government past or present. However,
multinational corporations are something new that our system is having
a hard time
Matt,
I wasn't meaning history is a guide or a box (as in we base what we do
now on the past), but merely something to remind us that yes, we are different
from Europe. Europe's methods have their merit, but many Americans would feel
stifled and over regulated in a European system.
Personal responsibility? If they choose to buy a 73 LCD TV and a brand new
Chrysler instead of budgeting for their health, but then run to the ER when
a kid has a runny nose, they deserve the however many thousand dollar bill
coming to them.
Advocate and persuade, but don't force.
-
Yeah, the VA's healthcare.. there's a system we all should want.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:24 PM
To: 'WISPA General
What's great about the commercial insurers, is that if you're not happy with
how one company is ran, you can move to another. Just like if someone
doesn't like Comcast's customer service or Verizon's service options, they
can choose me for service. Just think if Qwest was everyone's sole
Well haven't the NTIA and RUS been excellent examples of how quickly
government can take a program that already exists and expand it to more
people? It'll take them 1 year from the President's pen to spending the
money on a program they already had.
I can't wait until they do that with
I wonder if the people that did that report are from the University of East
Anglia.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:49 PM
To:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 09:22, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
What's great about the commercial insurers, is that if you're not happy
with
how one company is ran, you can move to another.
Except that you often can't, thanks to the weasel words pre-existing
conditions. And even
I support a system for people that truly cannot afford it themselves. Just
pulling a number out of thin air, but I'd imagine that's only 5% of the
population. My parents crested $40k in annual income not long ago, yet we
(family of 5) always had everything we needed to live and grow,
Thanks Scottie,,, We have the power company coming out also to check power.
That was my first thought was brown out. This site has had power issues in
the past. I did have one radio out of the bunch that had reset back to
defaults. So far no packet storms detected, nor any more issues with failing
Sure sign of a person losing his argument...personal attacks.
Brad
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance
On
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote:
Not sure where you got this info Matt. I've seen just the
opposite. In
Mississippi they had lost most of the OB/GYN docs. They are now
getting
what they need since they enacted tort reform.
You've seen or read the studies? Because
So then we remove interstate restrictions and if California continues to
regulate against the wishes of their citizens, they can move elsewhere.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From: Jeff Broadwick
Agreed. Tort reform will help save healthcare costs and enable more doctors
to practice their trade. My doctor just shut down his practice of 20-30
years and let his entire staff go due to the cost of business growing out of
control.
Brad
-Original Message-
From:
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Brad Belton wrote:
Agreed. Tort reform will help save healthcare costs and enable more
doctors
to practice their trade. My doctor just shut down his practice of
20-30
years and let his entire staff go due to the cost of business
growing out of
control.
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote:
From the NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/05/us/05doctors.html?_r=1
The article certainly shares some facts and anecdotes regarding the
2003 Texas tort reform. However, it doesn't point to any research that
ties cause and effect.
From the Washington Post also.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/30/AR2009073002816.html
Regards
Michael Baird
From the NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/05/us/05doctors.html?_r=1
Regards,
Jeff
Jeff Broadwick
ImageStream
800-813-5123 x106
I'm not a big fan of grids - especially for ptp links. Ice is your enemy.
I really like the ARC 5ghz 23dbi panels (they do 4.9 to 6ghz I think).
Small, strong and have worked very well for me. I use the rb411 and have 3
or 4 ptp links up right now. Probably going to be putting up another one
Anyone have any suggestions for a program that we can use to document
frequencies that is easy to use? Trying to plan 5ghz frequencies across
several towers that are close proximity.
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
[Having private options in a public world means you're paying for your
healthcare twice. It's like being forced to have Qwest DSL, but
electing to have FiOS instead. You're paying for 2 Internet services,
one great and the other not.]
Kinda like when I was home schooled as a kid and my parents
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:
- Original Message -
From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day!
One time, I had
On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote:
Kinda like when I was home schooled as a kid and my parents had to pay
school taxes for public school? Only makes sense that we'd again pay
twice for another public option.
Good analogy.
I don't think your parents had to pay twice. They
Heh, its still the land of opportunity - just for the wrong people (crooks,
criminals, politicians, lawyers, etc) :)
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Paul C Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net wrote:
Yup, in the past century, America stopped being the land of opportunity and
became the land of
The post office is bankrupt, not self supporting.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/08/18/the-next-bankruptcy-the-u-s-postal-service/
Regards
Michael Baird
On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote:
Kinda like when I was home schooled as a kid and my parents had to pay
school taxes
Well, this discussion is about what is coming , not what we have but to make
you happy - stop Medicare, Social Security, and shut down the VA hospitals!
VA patients would be much better served in the private sector with much less
waste.
Medicare Social Security: The biggest pyramid scheme in
IMO, this thread is getting pretty far off track and is wasting both
time and WISPA resources.
I respectfully request that everyone please consider the value in
getting back to work and releasing this list for more productive
WISP-focused usage.
jack
RickG wrote:
Well, this
China - the land of human rights? The better questions is why they are
looking better financially.
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com wrote:
On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Our profit is what drives the medical research and inspiration to make
Actually, the United States ranks number 37 in the world for the best
doctors and health care system. Most Americans are under the impression
that we are number one in so many things but sadly we are way less than
number one in most everything. The best doctors and healthcare system?
France and
We want to put up an M Rocket in 5gig frequency range and have four
customers between 6-8 miles. Will our 17dbi 120 degree antenna reach
them?
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It can depending on antenna height/customer antenna/LOS condition.
Regards
Michael Baird
We want to put up an M Rocket in 5gig frequency range and have four
customers between 6-8 miles. Will our 17dbi 120 degree antenna reach
them?
I run a Maine WISP, and we use the state government choice health
insurance.
We feel providing health insurance is an important benefit to attracting
and retaining quality workers of all ages, especially young ones with
families. I idealogically disfavor our states plan, but it saved us
We've noticed 5.8 grids are far more affected by icing than 2.4 or 900.
Ice buildup isn't different, just attenuation is.
We stick to solid dishes or flat panels for 5.8.
On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 11:05:01AM -0500, Michael Baird wrote:
I've been testing a few 5.8 grids for some p2p applications
Hahahahaha! I hope you got it on the first shot.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance
Just to break up the
A man who also speaks from the truth. Thank you, Owen. That was a lot of
words from you, brother! You must really mean what ya say.
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Owen Harrell
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009
You got it right on that. The position that I'm not gonna help these
people who think they are entitled argument is foolish because yes, they
may get it for free when they don't work for it but on the back end they are
already costing you and you can't see that.
I do a lot of work for the local
I should note my bad experience has always been with 5.8 grids, too.
Never 900 and we put up our first monster Pac 2.4 grid recently.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
---
Take the profit out of health care and the quality will go with it.
Would you do your job for what the gov will pay? Maybe you haven't
noticed, but it takes a smart person and a whole lot of hard work to get
into and get through medical school in the US. If there is no incentive
above helping
I'm moving to Illinois.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance
I support a system for people that truly cannot
And I, for one, are looking forward to melamine in all my future Chinese
made prescription drugs. Mmmm Can't get enough of that
melamine.
Joke, by the way.
Maybe not a pretty one, though.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
If Cuba is so good, why do they rank below the US?
Oh - I forgot - that same WHO survey that called us 37th
is hopelessly flawed in the first place.
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
- Original Message
True but I see the personal attacks starting to creep in and that's not
good. We are all basically friends and everyone knows that politics and
religion can tear that apart. I'd do anything for each and every one of you
regardless and just because a person believes one way and not yours doesn't
No, I haven't. I'll check into that one, thanks!
And agree, this all needs to stop.
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re:
Oh, thanks! I put up a bunch of those el cheapo 5.8 pac grids this summer.
Now I have all this to look forward to. Sigh
:)
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:01 PM
Not just the icing.
In the last month I have replaced 2 PW 5.8 grids (29db) with 2' dishes.
When the grids were installed we got signals of around -72. When we
took them down, we were getting -80. The dishes are getting -69. This
was 2 links, changing just one end. We had a similar problem
I have a customer that cut the cat 5 right at the ground in September.
I put a jack at the ground and a plug on the remaining cable and wrapped
it up as well as I could, knowing I would be back. Sure enough, today I
went back to re-fix it in the sleet. What fun. I think it is better
because
Those other countries that have better health outcomes and a longer
life expectancy have taken profit out of healthcare. Further, their
doctors are smart and spent a lot of time and money going to medical
as well. Most did it for the same reasons as doctors here. And many
get paid well
On Dec 8, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Blake Bowers wrote:
If Cuba is so good, why do they rank below the US?
Mostly likely because they are such a poor country and can't spend
much money on healthcare.
-Matt
WISPA
Probably so. The pac feed horn is fairly flimsy. I'm always afraid to put
too much force on them due to the plastic seam along the side looking like
it's not exactly sealed much. I always imagine the thing coming apart in my
hand whenever I put the small metal deflector on the end.
Bob-
I've used those 3-m or scotch crimp button connectors before, got a box of
them still in the van. It's really ugly though and you have to make sure
you keep as many twists in the wire as you can. But then you still have to
seal it all and RTV would be my choice. If I had to, and if I had any
You can't have it both ways.
The survey (which is flawed, but it was brought up) says that Cuba
rates below the US. Did you read how the numbers were come up
with?
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
-
Ugly isn't an issue as the cable is so short I want dig up a foot of it,
re-splice it and bury the splice.
Robert West wrote:
I've used those 3-m or scotch crimp button connectors before, got a box of
them still in the van. It's really ugly though and you have to make sure
you keep as many
I think anything you do, as long as the conductors are connected and
protected from the weather will be fine. Just keep as many twists in the
wire as you can. I've made some pretty nasty splices in the past and they
all worked perfectly. I just have a thing about looking professional and
not
Ah! Took me an hour to find this (everyone wanting to chat and text and
call and ask and...)
http://mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=p08Uhw9w2FyOGS2yhLmq6g%3d%3d
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
The secret to creativity is
Looks good but did you check that availability? 12 weeks? Yikes!!!
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable
Tape around the splice, mastic around the tape then 3 more layers of tape. But
I would waitfor a nice dry day so there is no moisture to deal with.
Just like a transmission line connector
Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: Scott Reed
The 5.8's have a metal horn, not plastic. The 2.4's are plastic.
Phil
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:
Probably so. The pac feed horn is fairly flimsy. I'm always afraid to put
too much force on them due to the plastic seam along the side looking
These are cool!
From: AVP Mfg. Supply Inc. [mailto:avp_mfg.__supply_...@mail.vresp.com]
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:52 AM
To: jrichardson@gmail.com
Subject: Get connected with AVP's Universal Panel
Click to view this email in a
Oh sorry I didn't realize the lack of units. They work very well - I
ordered several and store them for myself.
I have had each and every last tape job I'm aware of go bad. Maybe we're
all doing something wrong, I don't know. I've used all kinds of
combinations of things including 3M
*Estimated Ship Date*
54 12/11/2009
They're getting 54 of them in 3 days FYI.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
--- Albert Einstein
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Josh
All of the 5.8's I put up are plastic on the end.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Phil Curnutt
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Grids
The 5.8's have a metal
Scotch Lock each pair together. Wrap two pairs around the main wire in
one direction, and two in the other direction. Cover with a RG-11 coax
splice boot. It's filled with non-conductive gel.
Scott Reed wrote:
I have a customer that cut the cat 5 right at the ground in September.
I put
I may have one of those in the parts box. Hadn't thought of it.
Don't think I will order one for this customer, though. Lead time is 12
weeks.
Josh Luthman wrote:
Ah! Took me an hour to find this (everyone wanting to chat and text and
call and ask and...)
They ordered some already. 54 units will show up in 3 days. You can
probably order them now to see if 54 were preordered or not.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
---
I'm trying to implement The Dude as a method of monitoring inside a
network's firewall/router (actually a hot spot portal) and have it working
OK. It was a bear to get it figured out how get it to to use a remote probe
or whatever they call another instance of Dude running on a box inside.
If you are running more than 6-7mbits then use some other splice or
replace the whole cable.
If you are running less than this, then most any splice will work. :)
ryan
On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
wrote:
I think anything you do, as long as the
We have those. Use them all the time but I would not bury these.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:19:26
To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable
Right. Just like the people that want to go somewhere in life with private
schools, the people that want to live will have to pay extra for private
insurance.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
--
From:
Exactly. Bernie Madoff went to jail because of his Ponzi scheme, why didn't
FDR for social security? Well, other than the obvious of him dieing.
Again, if Maryland wants to do social security, great. Leave it out of
Kansas.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
On Dec 8, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Blake Bowers wrote:
You can't have it both ways.
The survey (which is flawed, but it was brought up) says that Cuba
rates below the US. Did you read how the numbers were come up
with?
I guess I don't understand how I am expecting it both ways. You asked
why
Sorry guys, I just have to jump in on the Cuban health care thing. I live in
Venezuela and we have LOTS of Cuban doctors. I know some personally. I know
Venezuelans who have studied in Cuba. It's nothing like they (the Cuban govt)
say it is. The numbers are good because it's a closed
On Dec 8, 2009, at 7:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Exactly. Bernie Madoff went to jail because of his Ponzi scheme,
why didn't
FDR for social security? Well, other than the obvious of him dieing.
Maybe you don't realize that Madoff fraudulently mislead investors
whereas social security is
And I guess because you know someone from Canada/Britain/France/Spain/
etc that swears the healthcare is worse then they make it out to be
and that the US is where everyone with money goes then it must be
true. Let's all just ignore study after study that shows every single
first world
Jack and all,
Very nice job on this filing. I know you were under tremendous pressure
to learn about the issues at hand and still meet the filing deadline. At
least now the WISP industry had been heard and offered some possible
solutions. It was very important to go on record with some ideas.
I revise that. Use them and wrap them with tape and mastic. :-)
And we use them on Dragonwave and Ceragon installs (100 Mb+) without issue.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: lakel...@gbcx.net
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:16:03
To: WISPA General
They make underground telephone splice blocks that are like a super sized
scotch lock plastic case filled with a big blob of white goey snot. The idea
is you make your splice however you need to then wad the whole thing in to
the blob of snot, snap the cover closed and the gel flows around the
What? FDR is dead??? I thought him and Stalin went halfs on a condo in
Malta Maybe I have my history mixed up.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM
To: WISPA
I did, they said it was too darn cold and I agreed.
But the beer was good.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:04 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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Matt,
Chill, you're taking a really harsh tone. I'm talking about Cuba
because I know about that. I have many Latino friends. I speak Spanish. I know
Cubans and I know a lot of people who have been to Cuba. You're putting words
in my mouth. I'm not refuting all those other countries
The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major
improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard
should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that
provide much more bandwidth than today.
Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like
On Dec 8, 2009, at 8:56 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
Matt,
Chill, you're taking a really harsh tone. I'm talking about Cuba
because I know about that. I have many Latino friends. I speak
Spanish. I know Cubans and I know a lot of people who have been to
Cuba. You're putting
Depends on what the customer will be using. NanoM? BulletM? What kind of
antenna?
As a rule, should be fine. Rocket M - Nano M should work at that range
decent.
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Forbes Mercy
forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote:
We want to put up an M Rocket in 5gig frequency
Matt,
Please reread what I said. I wasn't commenting on the whole healthcare
debate. I was talking about Cuba. CUBA CUBA CUBA. Do you get it now? Just CUBA.
Reread the original post and get off your high horse. Have you noticed everyone
else stopped replying to you.
Everyone
As I stated before... Medicare reimburses such low amounts, that ever
doctor, hospital, clinic, lab, etc, that accepts it does so at a loss. Not
just no profit but at a loss.Not only that, but Medicare has the
highest level of financial fraud, period. It's very efficient... at giving
LOL...
I was being lectured by some do-gooder online for my rotten morality, and my
answer to him was...
So, I have invested my entire life savings, toiled for 4 years without a
paycheck to put all the cash back into the business, and have worked more
hours than can ever be accounted for.
I dunno about him, but I can tell you that over the last 5.5 years I've been
in business, I have seen the last of the rice, beans, flour, bread, milk
vanish and the bank account be just as empty as the fridge and pantry a good
many times.
And, even when facing that kind of need at home, I've
Think IRS compassion.
I've got a personal debt to my state, and you have no idea how incredibly
nasty they are.
The guy actually told me wife it would be better if she were also
unemployed, so as to assure that no additional tax debt might be incurred.
Now THAT is the kind of health care
160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up
THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents
running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps
internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything
Marlon... Exactly.
A number of years ago, I made acquaintance of nice guy who is Norwegian... A
programmer, open source aficionado. One day we got talking about our
living - you know, home, car, food, etc.I mentioned something about
losing my home a few years back due to unemployment.
How high are you installing those? I'm installing some right now but have
yet to fire them up. Hoping to get a usable signal up to 10 miles. We'll
see!
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jayson Baker
Sent: Tuesday,
60GHz... plenty of spectrum... and it won't propagate that far.
But no mention of that in the article... I know the IEEE is working on that
as a standard...
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Ah! Well why in the heck would they leave out something that important?
Here I was thinking 5.8wasgoing bye bye in one quick hurry!
They can have it then. Still a waste unless they are an office sharing a
server or have home server with their pirate bay movies, music and viruses
to stream to
I have a trylon section 1 2 that I don't need. Anyone need or want I will
part with them cheap.
/Eje
--Original Message--
From: Stuart Pierce
Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
To: wireless@wispa.org
ReplyTo: spie...@avolve.net
ReplyTo: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] EEI 100'
Welcome back to the land of the frozen! How was the trip?
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:22 PM
To: spie...@avolve.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
Depends how you view waste.
If you're clueless and you see 100 meg router or 54 meg router which are
you going to choose? You want fast! That other one is almost twice the
speed. If they can make it at the same cost and just charge more,
manufacturers will love it. Look at N.
Josh Luthman
I like! Many of my customers have wireless routers in their
homes/offices. Once the devices become cheap and readily available
it will be a godsend.
At 09:18 PM 12/8/2009, you wrote:
Ah! Well why in the heck would they leave out something that important?
Here I was thinking 5.8wasgoing bye
http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/economicsunbound/archives/2008/12/is_social_secur.html
You gotta love the readers posts to the article!
I dont know about ponzi but its a pyramid and defianatly ascheme.
For me, I hang on to the quotes of our founding fathers and the truly gifted
leaders that
I'm sure you're a nice guy...
But you're trying to convince a lot of people who know better by long years
of experience, that life would be beautiful and all will be fine, if we just
give Congress a few more trillion dollars a year of our hard earned money.
Oh, and defining being moral and
I view waste as in clueless people grabbing fast as you say. I love having
to explain to customers who want a newer computer because their internet is
so slow. HA! Unless they are riddled with spyware and viruses, no new
computer is gonna make the internet faster unless you're replacing one from
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