Good idea ! Columbus, Ohio has plenty of conference/convention space and places
are hungry for events, plus everything is within walking distance.
;)
-- Original Message --
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List
Kurt, We bought a box of Belkin outdoor a few years back and it turned
out to be indoor cable with a second jacket. We put a 150 foot run on a
tower and crossed a flat roof and down a wall with another drop. Both
started to loose the outer jacket within a couple of years, it just
split apart
Thought this might be found interesting by some
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8498100.stm
Granted not US based but sets a bit of a precedence I think.
/ Eje
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Title II of the Communications Act—the section that regulates
telecommunications common carriers is now being considered by the FCC to
oversee broadband. FCC Commissioner Robert M. McDowell during a talk he gave
to the Free State Foundation asked: (see First Do No Harm: A broadband plan
for
Doesn't really set a precedence in the US, oversees rulings are not
material in US courts unless it involves a US law.
My concern though is that if the Comcast/NBC deal goes through, Comcast
will suddenly be an even bigger content owner (granted they have small
content now) and I fear they will
Doesn't set a precedence, but I seem to recall our Supreme Court siting
international or other countries laws in rulings. I remember but it
bothered me that they were not using our Constitution and laws, but
someone else's. So, I would guess there is a good change this will have
an impact
I trust that government will be able to keep up just fine. Do you
support the alternative of making government so small that you can drown
it in a bathtub?
Glenn Kelley wrote:
Title II of the Communications Act—the section that regulates
telecommunications common carriers is now being
Ya, and they can use the business now that Obama spoke out against them!
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote:
Why would you not have it at Vegas, like most other conventions? Most days
we can fly there and back for under $100 total round-trip. Rooms are
10+ years ago I remember making a deal with a hotel to take a shower in a room
that was being refurbished after driving through he night from NY. No available
rooms for 50 miles.
I should throw all my crap into a U-haul truck, drive it out there and abandon
the thing! LOL
-B-
Sent from my
What happens if the government states you cannot block any content and or do
traffic shaping ... ?
Understand - the talk was to the Free State Foundation - who is against
virtually any blocking or traffic shaping
This being said- even the plans you may offer may be out of the window on the
*shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up my
families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large conference.
There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close
enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was no
Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great
rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :)
Randy
On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote:
*shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up my
families reserveration. Roadeo show
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 21:16 -0600, Blake Bowers wrote:
That sounds like a great idea, but I would like to think the
WISP folks bathe more often than some of the people at the
hamfest...
Of course you all realize that the board has already decided to work
with Ed Meeks group and that Ed Meeks
Very good!
I've always had the thought that if I, as a provider of access to the
internet am responsible for how the users behave.. I would like to
stretch that out and hold everyone responsible for other things such as if a
burglar uses the highway to come to your house to rob me, they
I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting
If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the place -
IMHO
When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets for
prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr
Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I
Hi Matt,
I'm moving this back to the show list. I still request that wispashow
emails reply to that list not the public one :-).
Anyway, I understand what you are saying. As our local Chamber of Commerce
president here's my latest project:
http://www.odessachamber.net/bikeweek
Almost all
Agreed. I know this might not necessary have a direct precedence for the US
market but I know in the past on some things like this the US courts,
judges, attorneys and the like has looked at what other countries have done
and taken a serious look on the reasoning why they went a specific direction
Glenn,
I think it's important not be be overly alarmist.
There is every reason to believe that Network Neutrality will allow and
encourage "reasonable network management" practices.
WISPA works responsibly with the FCC and with other governmental
agencies to be sure that they understand
I agree here with Marlon that I am afraid that it will turn into an
ISPCon event. I learn and enjoy a show like MUM or AFMUG much better
than ISPCon. As both a Vendor and an ISP member, shows like ISPCon
don't have the intimacy like a smaller show does. I could care less if
it is in Vegas, or
After seeing several responses, I have decided to go with a simple Mikrotik
set up. My wireless vendor will sell me the Mikrotik and for an additional
$75 set up my portal with splash page.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 11:46 -0600, Carl Shivers wrote:
After seeing several responses, I have decided to go with a simple Mikrotik
set up. My wireless vendor will sell me the Mikrotik and for an additional
$75 set up my portal with splash page.
I'm not sure who your vendor is, but you can
For future reference the iam8up.com domain works in place of stfunoo.be.
Slightly more professional I guess?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
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that counts.”
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Take an evening and go through setting up the MT. Once you spend a
couple of hours with it you will see that it's not that difficult.
There is so much info on the web that you can simply follow the
example configs line by line and get results.
Sent Mobile
Jerry Richardson
airCloud
I can imagine. Back in the heyday I would have never tried to go without
reservations.
I took a 21 foot enclosed trailer last year - made about 3k over and above
my costs, selling stuff like trays of assorted NSO Motorola parts,
thousands of dollars at NSO pricing, for 5 bucks.
Just yesterday
No, but a whirlpool tub, yes.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:39 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
YES
Jack Unger wrote:
I trust that government will be able to keep up just fine. Do you
support the alternative of making government so small that you can drown
it in a bathtub?
Glenn Kelley wrote:
Title II of the Communications Act—the section that regulates
telecommunications
So, now that government has been drowned, the huge banks, insurance
companies, telecoms can do whatever they want to you whenever they want
to do it.
BWh, haaa, h, haaa, hh
Frank Crawford wrote:
YES
Jack Unger wrote:
I trust that government will be able to
Here is an entertaining customer support related link to one of my
employee's blog posts.
http://www.happystinkingjoy.com/?p=556
Sounds pretty typical to me.
Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com
WISPA Wants You! Join
There is outdoor cable with two jackets I saw some about a month ago and if
I find the info I'll send it over. I saved it because it looked
interesting. I have a piece of it somewhere too.. put it in a safe place
can't find now lol
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
I can fly to Vegas from either Cedar Rapids or Des Moines for $49.00 on
Allegiant. Orlando, Phoenix, LA are also direct and cheap.
Mike
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010
The fundamental difference that Jack fails to recognize is if a bank (or
organization other than the government) does treat you unfairly you have
recourse. If your own government treats you unfairly, you have little to no
recourse.
Yes, we can all only hope the majority of Americans will
Brad,
There is really only one way to get a smaller government without
throwing society into total disarray. That method is to have a smaller
country, in other words, a lower level of population. With an exploding
population there is just no way that I can see to get a smaller government.
If
Double jacket cable comes in both indoor and outdoor. The difference between
the two is the mixed into compound. There are chemicals that make the PE UV
rated. They could both feel the exact same (durable and heavy) but one could
be indoor and crumble in a couple years from sun and one could
Can you give an exact address and quantity of bandwidth you're looking for?
Marco
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Ray Jean webbil...@surfmore.net wrote:
Anyone know of a cheap provider of bandwidth in southern middle Tennessee?
Thanks Ray Jean
Jack,
I completely disagree with the notion that America has to become smaller to
have a smaller less invasive government! It is a socialist mentality to
think that only government can grow America or help Americans.
America achieved its success by people utilizing their abilities to better
Jack, it remains very difficult to be civil, when you post this kind of
stuff.
Since the founding of the country until the 1960's, the federal government
rarely spent more than single digit percentaqes of everything we produce,
except in time of war.We as a nation prospered immensely
Brad,
You are misunderstanding or ignoring what I've been saying so let's try
it again.
When you have more people crowded into the same space your are going to
have more frequent and more complex problems, including more fighting
over the available amount of resources. Like it or not,
Sorry Mark,
I truly appreciate and enjoy responding to all appropriate and
responsible posts but your LONG HISTORY of troll behavior will FOREVER
elicit the same response from me.
I will not feed the troll. I will not feed the troll. I will not feed
the troll. I will not feed the troll. I
Wow Jack!
99% of the working people have lost or given up their power to govern their
own lives.
I believe that there are a small percent of people who knowingly or
unknowingly have turned their lives over to someone else, but to say that it
is 99% is just wrong.
Jeff
Regards,
Jeff
Jack, make that two trolls :)
With all due respect, isnt that exactly how liberals respond to conservative
claims - by demonizing them? Marks comments were spot on and I couldnt have
said them any better, so I'm resending them with my name on the end. I
respect your right to your viewpoint but I
Jack,
Your police analogy is flawed.
While it may take a larger police force to serve and insure the safety of a
larger population it does not take a larger government body with increased
invasion of those people's lives to govern effectively. A larger population
requires no more or
They'll keep up by slowing us down with regulation. They're good at such
activity.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:55 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Common
If enough ISP's take the position of not my job and stick to it, it may
hold them off. Problem is most ISPs are their own little kingdom with no
meaningful interaction with other operators.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf
Yeah. Imagine having someone think that wasting ones money to gambling
being a bad thing and then actually saying so. As my grandmother may of
said if she ever said it.
Why, I never!
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
If you want to be treated like cattle, have a show in Vegas. You're just
the latest. Want to be appreciated? Go to a less popular and less flashy
venue that has shows less frequently. (NOT BRANSON!)
You will be king! Unless, of course you're female then being King would be
a bit scary for you
First my car wouldn't start then I find that my cat was ran over and now
this! Thanks a lot, Butch! Jesus... Unbelievable
:)
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Thursday, February
I'm the same. If Vegas, I'd pass. Having shows in Vegas isnt about the
show, it's about Vegas. The show is just the vehicle to use to get there.
A show in Vegas has become a cliché.
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Now ya tell me! Sorry, just saw this after posting 78 show emails to the
public list :)
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:00 PM
To: WISPA General
And me and my pack of highly trained Wispa Ninja warriors will be waiting
for them to thwart their plans of conquest!
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re:
Good point Jeff ! :)
Jeff Broadwick wrote:
Wow Jack!
99% of the working people have lost or given up their power to govern their
own lives.
I believe that there are a small percent of people who knowingly or
unknowingly have turned their lives over to someone else, but to say that it
Ah, but what about the newly found free speech rights of corporations?
You aren't allowed to limit their speech (DOLLARS) now according to most
of the fine folks over at the supreme court.
Of course, OURS will then be drowned out by their deep pockets full of
speech
Bob-
Just keep saying to yourself.
1. Overpopulation is good.
2 Political corruption does not exist.
Good luck and best wishes. ;-)
jack
RickG wrote:
Jack, make that two trolls :)
With all due respect, isnt that exactly how liberals respond to conservative
claims - by demonizing
On the contrary Brad. Not all but a lot of what you just said I agree
with. You are obviously a sharp thinker and I absolutely respect that.
Thank you for taking the time to explain your thinking.
Best of luck.
Respectfully,
jack
Brad Belton wrote:
Jack,
Your
On the contrary Brad. Not all but a lot of what you just said I agree
with. You are obviously a sharp thinker and I absolutely respect that.
Thank you for taking the time to explain your thinking.
Best of luck.
Respectfully,
jack
Brad Belton wrote:
Jack,
Your
Thank God you're here!!
Can I please join the pack ??? :-[
Robert West wrote:
And me and my pack of highly trained Wispa Ninja warriors will be waiting
for them to thwart their plans of conquest!
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf
LOL makes me recall article I read earlier tonight.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-04/at-t-s-iphone-deal-swamps-networ
k-sparking-consumer-rebellion.html
/ Eje
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Life, Liberty, Property.
Those were the basics that our government was formed to protect for us.
For the common defense.
It's now morphed from the government For the people into people For the
government. As long as there are greedy people and the what about mine?
thinkers, it won't get any
Brad,
People are losing their homes.many of
which never should have been afforded the privilege of home ownership if
it
were not for big government forcing lenders to lend to unqualified buyers.
You had me, until the above paragraph. That is a crock of ShXX.
Most housing foreclosures are
Yes. You shall be admitted to the Brave Order of the Wispa Ninja Warriors
and will be permitted to enjoy all the benefits of this association. This
includes, but is not limited to, being declared Right and Correct to any
one post of your choosing to the Wispa list per month.
We only ask that
well Put Bob.
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On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:18 AM, Robert West wrote:
Besides, I don't get along with Wayne Newton and he knows why.
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:50 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision
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