[WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-01 Thread Scott Carullo
Could a squid caching server accomplish the same sort of bandwidth savings, maybe more due to the fact it is caching ALL the content not just Akamai? I've never use used a web cahce always had the bandwidth and the problems were not worth it Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102

Re: [WISPA] RB1100

2010-09-01 Thread Scott Carullo
The 1100 will do ospf fine but load them up with bgp 2 or more times and they suffer. We were going to use them and we changed plans to use a supermicro server with a 4 or 6 port NIC. The 1100 seems to be a good tower choice because it has enough ports to handle a set of gear without

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups

2010-09-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We see it all of the time on the AP's. 6000 and 6600 units. I've only got a few left in the field now. We've replaced nearly all with MT units and haven't looked back! I did upgrade one to firmware 5.0.5 yesterday, we'll see if that finally fixes it. Still love the cpq units though. marlon

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-01 Thread Travis Johnson
Yes, but the bandwidth savings are not worth the headaches (another box or two to maintain, some sites don't like to be cached, customer support calls, web sites blocking a certain IP address because ALL the traffic from your network is coming from the cache server IP, etc.). Unless you are

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups

2010-09-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Grin. Thanks for passing it along Patrick. We've had the problem since before you worked for them though. Several years in fact. I still have a gaggle of these units sitting on the shelf. They ONLY get used for sites with 5 or less subscribers though. marlon - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups

2010-09-01 Thread Jason Hensley
I dropped Tranzeo several years ago after many runs of this. I got tired of it and as a small operator I couldn't be sending radios back all the time. Went to Deliberant and got a much better, more stable product with MANY more options and features and much more flexibility. Plus, they are

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-09-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
In areas where I already have 20mb line of sight sectors, yeah, no problem. But lets face it, to handle video, ISPs are going to have to make network upgrades at every sector and CPE, sooner or later. Who's gonna pay for that? Should I have to give up my profits this year, so that it can be

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-09-01 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:20, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Who's gonna pay for that? Should I have to give up my profits this year, so that it can be re-invested into my network once again, so Hulu and NetFlix can continue to get rich? If you want to keep residential

[WISPA] The Big Dog Talks

2010-09-01 Thread Chuck Profito
ATT: Net rules must allow 'paid prioritization' by Declan McCullagh ATT said Tuesday that any Net neutrality plan restricting its ability to engage in paid prioritization of network traffic would be harmful and contrary to the fundamental principles of the Internet. Telecommunications

Re: [WISPA] UPS with IP

2010-09-01 Thread Chuck Profito
Tom, that $40 SBC should be a old CB3 from the junk pile. We now call them power pingers From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UPS with IP Its

Re: [WISPA] UPS with IP

2010-09-01 Thread Frank Aquino
You might want to talk to the manufacturers of the charge controller and the power supply about this. One issue that could come up is when the charge controller is charging in bulk (current) mode, the DC power supply will see this as a short and either a) blow a fuse if it doesn't have

[WISPA] Bandwidth Providers

2010-09-01 Thread Eric Rogers
I am looking for multiple connections to the internet. We currently have ATT Fiber and IPs. We want to look at redundancy in terms of becoming a BGP peer, and purchasing our own IP addresses. The ONLY other provider in our area is Comcast. Has anyone worked with them to do any BGP peering?

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers

2010-09-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I think we spoke once before. You're not too far out from Indianapolis, so you should be able to get IP there at a decent rate. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/1/2010 2:41 PM, Eric Rogers wrote: I am looking for multiple connections to the

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-09-01 Thread Blake Covarrubias
On Aug 31, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Also, hosting their servers is not necessarilyl free. For example, the most logicial place to put it might be at one's NOC. That NOC might reside at a Colo. At $50 per U of space, that is a residual cost that you will pay. Obviously depends

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-09-01 Thread Matt
Just contact Akamai, and give them your AS #, if you are using any amount of bandwidth they will colocate in your facilities (for free), so you can serve much of the Akamai content locally. Do Akamai cache boxes actually cache Netflix video? I presume they cache things like PS3 updates and

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-01 Thread Blake Covarrubias
On Sep 1, 2010, at 5:14 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Yes, but the bandwidth savings are not worth the headaches (another box or two to maintain, some sites don't like to be cached, customer support calls, web sites blocking a certain IP address because ALL the traffic from your network is

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-09-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
Nobody has a free ride in this, though. Netflix/Hulu/whoever is paying TV and movie companies for the right to redistribute content via the Internet, and is paying Akamai/Limelight/whoever for bandwidth to do the actual distribution. The end-user is paying Netflix for access to their collection

[WISPA] Katrina, Five Years Later

2010-09-01 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
(from my blog, WirelessCowboys.com) It is now 5 years since Katrina hit New Orleans and changed the face of the Gulf Coast forever. One of the good things that came out of this disaster was the outstanding effort by wireless ISPs that came together to provide Internet and phone services

Re: [WISPA] UPS with IP

2010-09-01 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
We are doing this with our old CB3 and RB110 boards. I am actually turning on the 2.4ghz AP mode, so that our techs can get online through them without having to plug into the network. All of our APs are switching to 10mhz channels and the laptops can't just hop on them anymore! Matt

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers

2010-09-01 Thread Eric Rogers
We are only 8 miles from Indy, but there are no other CLECs in the central office for Mooresville. So, our options are ATT, or Comcast (because they have coax). Shoot me a call (317) 831-3000 x200 if you have ideas. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers

2010-09-01 Thread Bret Clark
Do I dare say we have two (2) 100Mbs circuits for $1500 :)! Of course we were fortunate that we were able to run a wireless backhaul link to a CLEC hotel and thus only have to pay for the data portion since we eliminated the ridiculously cost of the last mile loop charges the ILEC gets. We

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers

2010-09-01 Thread Rick Harnish
That is Henry Street in Indy. It is the main colo facility where all the carriers are. My company has had rack space at Henry Street since early 2008 in Lifeline Data Center. Lifeline has another new data center further east in Indy. Rick -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers

2010-09-01 Thread Jason Bailey
Eric,I have been trying for months to get someone at att to sell me fiber that is already in my building,they don't call back or dont know who to have me call!!Can you help?Thanks!Jason --- On Wed, 9/1/10, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: From: Rick Harnish

Re: [WISPA] Katrina, Five Years Later

2010-09-01 Thread Mike Delp
Time for a Camp Shagnasty Five Year Reunion Mike On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote: (from my blog, WirelessCowboys.com) It is now 5 years since Katrina hit New Orleans and changed the face of the Gulf Coast forever. One of the good things that

Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?

2010-09-01 Thread Dennis Burgess
We never put more than 1 freq card in an enclosure. XR2 + XR5, that's fine, but not two XR2s or two XR5s. --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers

2010-09-01 Thread Travis Johnson
So what you are saying is that YOU shouldn't have to uphold YOUR end of the contract? How does that make sense? Travis Microserv On 9/1/2010 1:41 PM, Eric Rogers wrote: I am looking for multiple connections to the internet. We currently have ATT Fiber and IPs. We want to look at

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-01 Thread Travis Johnson
Been there, done ALL of that. Not worth the headaches. Bandwidth is CHEAP now... time is still the most valuable thing in this business... I can spend hours messing, tweaking, fighting, adjusting, etc. a cache proxy, or in that same amount of time I can go install a business connection for

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-01 Thread Mike
I too would love to know that formula. I doubt if it would work in rural Tama County Iowa. Most businesses are agribusiness (i.e. farmers) and I already have most of them in my footprint. My biggest obstacle right now is finding cheap bandwidth. So even a statement that bandwidth is cheap

Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?

2010-09-01 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 9/1/2010 06:53 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: We never put more than 1 freq card in an enclosure. XR2 + XR5, that's fine, but not two XR2s or two XR5s. Reading the forums, especially the UBNT ones, I got some ideas about what might work. Here's my recollection. Just from the look of them, the

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-01 Thread Jeremie Chism
If you bundle Internet with phone it's actually not that hard to get over 500/month. I have several over 800. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: I too would love to know that formula. I doubt if it would work in rural Tama County Iowa. Most

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers

2010-09-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
Not so fast... Sure, if the other party wont let you out of a contract, the ethical thing to do is honor it. BUT... its not unethical for the two parties involved to mutually agree to change an agreement for mutual benefit. Most contracts specifically allow that. There are many reasons a party

Re: [WISPA] Single radio or multiple radios in the same box?

2010-09-01 Thread Mike
If you could manage to get each radio card in its own Faraday shield you could make it work. You could put multiple router boards and cards in the same box separated by a stainless steel plumber's mesh. You have to take pains to ground the mesh to the box. The problem is de-sense to the

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers

2010-09-01 Thread Bret Clark
I agree...the economy sucks, use it to your advantage. Tell your vendor you're having a hard time paying the current rate and that you need to get the price lowered or you may have to look at closing your doors. You'll be amazed at how many will change their tune regarding contract terms.

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-01 Thread Travis Johnson
I have two OC-3 connections (155Mbps) and one OC-12 connection (620Mbps)... and even at those levels, I still average $50/meg as my hard cost. I am selling 10Mbps x 10Mbps dedicated connections to businesses and schools, etc. for $500/month. Travis Microserv On 9/1/2010 5:34 PM, Mike

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers

2010-09-01 Thread Travis Johnson
You can almost always get the new pricing, if you want to sign a new contract for the same as your existing one. I have done that at least 20 times with Qwest on PRI and T1 lines for customers. The original poster just said they won't give me the new pricing. Sometimes you have to work at

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers

2010-09-01 Thread Eric Rogers
No no no no What I am saying is that I am willing to re-up the contract (as I have done for the last 6 years) and get current services that they are selling to others. I am fully capable/willing to finish my contract with them. What bothers me is that to Upgrade to more speed, they are

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers

2010-09-01 Thread Eric Rogers
And when I say re-negotiate, I mean sign a new contract at the other rate. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 9:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-01 Thread Mike
If you are selling dedicated 10M service for $500 and 10M cost YOU $500, how do you make money? Or is it really oversubscribed? _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:05 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-01 Thread Travis Johnson
You monitor your usage on all the links up to, and including your backbone. If I have 100Meg from my core to a tower, does that mean I can only sell ten 10Meg connections? Not if my usage never goes above 50Mbps or even 80Mbps. I graph and monitor every single link, every port on every

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-01 Thread Mike
I like your strategy. I wish my environment would support such an approach. The chances of several of them demanding the same bandwidth at the same time would be slight unless they all start running Netflix. Do you have an SLA that states the terms? Mike _ From:

Re: [WISPA] Katrina, Five Years Later

2010-09-01 Thread MDK
I'll second that.Mac, and all the other people who so selflessly put in money and time and pain and sleepless hours and living without showers for days to camping in crowded trailers and trying to get a cell signal and get communication out to get stuff in, for countless hours that'll never

Re: [WISPA] The Big Dog Talks

2010-09-01 Thread Stuart Pierce
I really really do not like that AmeriWreck and SBC ( Same Bad Company ) hide underneath a name like ATT. -- Original Message -- From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 10:40:45

[WISPA] Service in Central Texas

2010-09-01 Thread Alan Bryant
I have a customer who needs service in Liberty Hill, TX 78642. If anyone provides service to the area, please hit me up offlist. -- Alan Bryant | Systems Administrator Gtek Computers Wireless, LLC. a...@gtekcommunications.com | www.gtek.biz O 361-777-1400 | F 361-777-1405

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-09-01 Thread Jeremie Chism
Docsis 3 is here. Fios is not. Even though I can't compete with 50meg and 100meg, I don't yet have to. Many of my customers state that the quality of my Internet is so much better than Comcast. Obviously some people will go to them, but when it goes down and they are told it will be three days

Re: [WISPA] Akamai / other caching servers

2010-09-01 Thread Travis Johnson
No... we don't do SLA's for anyone. We have been in business for 15 years. Our reputation speaks for itself. :) Travis Microserv On 9/1/2010 7:46 PM, Mike wrote: I like your strategy. I wish my environment would support such an approach. The chances of several of them demanding the same

Re: [WISPA] UPS with IP

2010-09-01 Thread Robert West
I have one, has 2 12 volt deep cycle batteries in parallel purchased for cheap from the great Satan, Wal-Mart. Use a small 15 buck maintain charger for each. Tip.. They have a 18 month no pro-rate warranty. Close to 18 months you could accidentally drop it a few times to knock the cells