Tom DeReggi
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a product
line that could bring WISPs to carrier class. Licensed
Backhaul, GB
near interference-free last mile.
Tom DeReggi
Tom DeReggi
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That statement, really depends on the price that is relased, and the
volume the buyer is considering, as well as their time frame.
If someone is planning on dropping 1/4-1/2 million on Licensed gear in
a year, and the price is really good, allowing the provider to get 30%
more links
up for the
I will tell you, the most exciting news of the year for me, is clearly
Trango's entry into the Licensed space.
In no particular order, here's a quick list of other licensed radio
manufacturers off the top of my head w/ licensed Part 101 products
shipping today in the US
NEC
Alcatel
Harris
Does anyone cover...looking for T1 (or possibly better) level service
909 Avenue T, Suite 200
Grand Prairie, TX 75050
Ping me offlist
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Nowadays...we're finding that most MDU owners don't want to talk to you
unless you can do a triple play (data, voice, video)
VoIP is pretty commonplace, and an IP-Video residential play is becoming
a reality for a lot out there...we've rolled out triple play services,
and in new buildings, we
The question with Trango always is who wants to be first...
(Free beta testers don't count)
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Hey Felix,
We need to catch up...what's your number?
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Sorry about that guys
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Rogato
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Charles Wu wrote:
Saw them in Vegas, they're completely separate / different radios from
Dragonwave
As for deployments, it's still pretty new and probably still in beta
(they literally just
Saw them in Vegas, they're completely separate / different radios from
Dragonwave
As for deployments, it's still pretty new and probably still in beta
(they literally just finished the GUI interface the day before InterOp
in Vegas)
Now, someone just has to step up and be first to try to new
FWIW, I was chatting w/ John Seaman from Trango last week and he made an
offhand remark that the WiMAX chip-set they were trying to implement /
test didn't work very well (latency / throughput / interference issues)
Not exactly sure, but I believe they were looking at the Wavesat chipset
Interesting idea...
Question I would have is equipment costs...right now, FCC rules
pertaining to 6 GHz Part 101 equipment operations (barring the 6' dish
requirement) drastically increases gear pricing...I would think it to be
an extremely uphill battle to get these regulations relaxed
-Charles
I will probably be there (2 FL trips within a few weeks is a bit much
though
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If VoIP softswitches is something that you're actively investigating,
you may want to look into Netsapiens
www.netsapiens.com
What's interesting is that their primary focus is on independent ISPs /
WISPs / etc
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What Madcity doesn't realize is my old employee Tony K is up there
having a blast with his Canopy system
It's like shooting prarie dogs
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There is a distinction - The Community Wireless Summit is non-profit.
Maybe it's me, but the Community Wireless Summit seems to be as
non-profit as Part-15.org
CUWiN owns and runs the non-profit (or not-profitable?) Community
Wireless Summit
Summit home page: (www.wirelesssummit.org redirects
Out of curiosity...does this mean I can just email blast the list with
events that I organize?
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Maggiono's is a fun place to go to
Bring a minimum of 4 people so you can qualify for the family dinner --
and then make sure you bring your appetite =)
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Where people often screw up with sales and marketing is thinking that
it's a one-size-fits-all type of approach
One of the key drivers behind any sales and marketing effort is the
identification of your target customer base
You'll have a MUCH different approach and strategy if you're selling $29
Honestly,
Would you buy RB112/532/whatever boards if they cost $1k vs $100 each?
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IMO, a lot of it has to do with changes within the industry and the perception
of what a WISP is...
The technical definition of a WISP is a Wireless Internet Service Provider, or
anyone who puts a stick up somewhere (tower, AP, etc) and delivers broadband
service via wireless medium to
As WISPs get more educated and mature there is less for them to learn at the
shows, and harder for them to leave their demanding business growth.
Tom,
I would disagree with you on this statement and challenge you by pointing out
that your educational needs have evolved from what's an antenna
Ultimately, a business is built to maximize it's selling price to it's customer
-- the difference between Clearwire and many of the people on this listserv is
the definition of product and customer
For most people here (e.g., the small business owner of a profitable WISP /
Wireless Network
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Depends on the config -- per end @ LIST (2 sides = 1 link), you're
looking at
9 Mb: 1940
18 Mb: 2245
27 Mb: 2840
36 Mb: 3340
54
Depends on the config -- per end @ LIST (2 sides = 1 link), you're
looking at
9 Mb: 1940
18 Mb: 2245
27 Mb: 2840
36 Mb: 3340
54 Mb: 4540
108 Mb: 5440
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Ugh...KarlNet?
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Hi,
those of you who use Canopy 900: what is the actual throughput
you've gotten to the CPE? 4Mbps or less? Has anyone run a bandwidth
test while passing traffic simultaneously in both directions (such as
with Qcheck)?
Thanks a lot.
If you have adequate SNR to be able to associate
I go to see Mickey Mouse for a few days and look where this thread has
gone...wow
So, my 2 cents...
One of the largest concerns in the license-exempt world is the question of a
system's interference robustness. However, before we can get into further
detail on the pros and cons of Alvarion VL
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snip
Profile your best clients.
Pick out who you want your clients to be.
Research them.
Be in front of them.
Sell
Hi Blair,
I got a bunch that I'll cut you a deal on -- how many do you need?
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The problem with the philosophy of building out is that you never make any
money...
Don't just take orders -- learn to actually sell
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Zero. When the CEO is also the primary investor, and the company is an
S-corp or LLC, why pay payroll tax, when you can just take a repayment of
loan?
The salary of the CEO can be meaningless unless also disclosed wether they
have an equity position or not, and of what caliber.
/snip
B/c
Aren't the current WISP dues like $250 ish / year? (that really isn't that
much)
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I've got a roll of it I'll give you REAL cheap (it's been sitting in the
warehouse for over a year now)
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One thing that you must understand, this is a completely different type of
business model
The Winstar/FiberTower/etc model is wall street play; keep in mind, while
the business may fail miserably, it's worth noting that the original
founders / VCs generally end up doing quite well
Case in point,
Brad,
Distance is all dependent on rain zone (and in more arrid climates, like
Colorado, higher frequencies may perform better due to better multipathing
properties) -- ask Travis J -- he's got 18 GHz doing 15+ miles w/ awesome
reliability (keep in mind, Pocatello, ID is basically a desert from a
Hi Patrick,
What basis do you have for the claim that an Alvarion network will fetch a
higher price than a Canopy network? Some analysis of historical sell prices?
I'd be interested to see it.
Can't resist...
It's mainly due to the current Canopy gear trade-out promo
Buy an Alvarion network,
Is there a FCC search where I can imput a freq range and get all the
licensees from a particular State ? Including the Regional and National
Licensees
that fall on that freq and state range ?
Yes and no
1. All the information is publically available
2. As much as we'd wish it to be, it's not
Ferrite beads help but do not solve the issue
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Tom,
Contact me offlist -- I know someone who can probably help you (he does
custom work for University astronomy arrays)
Cheap is a relative term =/
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Not that this is a good practice...but
Wmux radios are extremely sensative to interference on the Rx size (a wiff
of anything takes it down)
Figure out the Tx/Rx spread (may be 5.3 GHz on that particular site), and
shut them down on the Rx side -- maybe then they'll talk =)
-Charles
P.S. -- if
I have the following Alvarion equipment that needs a home (all unopened new
in box)
Q3 AUE-NI-900
Q13 SU-I-D-900
Anyone interested?
-Charles
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I can expand on this, but would that be considered a vendor pitch ?
(discussion will include product capabilities, etc)
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to the customer (at each
Mikrotik around the network) and were able to eliminate a point of
failure on the network.
Travis
Microserv
Charles Wu wrote:
Wanted to get people's opinion of ETINC
It's been some time since Dennis has publically flogged anyone
ducking but curious about product performance
http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/view_press_release.php?rID=9156
Their patent reads as follows
US Patent No 6,249,516 B1
WIRELESS NETWORK GATEAWY AND METHOD FOR PROVIDING SAME
A wireless network system includes a server having a server controller and a
server radio modem, and a number of
So is it safe to say that one could get one of those $9k Dragon Wave links
licensed and ready to go for $12.5 - $15k?
It really depends on dish size and licensing situation
For example, licensing for a government entity (county, school, etc) is on a
different schedule (costs about $1k) vs.
Maybe I'm missing something -- but w/ LICENSED Dragonwave 50 Mb radios as
low as $8-9k / link, unless you're going to shoot 15+ miles (which isn't
really possible w/ the amount of spectrum utilized) why would you even
bother messing around w/ such a high-priced unlicensed radio?
-Charles
P.S. --
Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
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Maybe I'm
, November 15, 2006 12:15 PM
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Charles Wu wrote:
You would have to get in touch w/ a Dragonwave Distributor =)
-Charles --- Dragonwave Distributor who supports WISPA
Does your company also take care of the license search
Performance wise, the best omnis we've found on the market are the BIG H-Pol
Omnis from MTI Wireless Edge
11 dBi -- but at 10'+ tall and 2.5' wide @ $1k+, they can be a tough pill to
swallow
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The Pacific Wireless horizontal omni is a good choice however, they
are about $900 each.
Yes and no
MTI Omnis don't cost that much more and have 2 extra dB of gain -- and
remember, in 900 MHz, each extra dB of gain equates to approximately 1'
worth of additional antenna at the subscriber =)
snip
I'm on the upper end of their 250-CPE mark and will pay $250 per month with
(most likely) no $$$ up front. Then I will pay $500 per month for the
251st-500th CPEs. I am going to try this out on a 1-year contract. It's
worth that much to me just to see if it will work out for my
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I'm going to be in
the NYC area this week -- would love to finally meet you
-Charles
Ping me w/ your
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Unfortunately, I won't be
but
Michael (from my company) will be going -- hit him up -- drinks / food are on us
=)
Michael Cochrane
630-675-9125 (c)
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Too bad that announcement is only applicable to about 5 people in the North
American WISP market
VL != BreezeMAX
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Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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Does Judd Dare do this kind of stuff?
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There's a company http://www.krugercomm.com that might be able to help you
They specialize in LA work w/ broadband (better than you're average tower
monkey...)
-Charles
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Jay's great - known him for almost 4 years now...but I thought he wasn't
climbing anymore (or only climbing the towers he owns)
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Of course, the market is currently valuing such companies at 3x revenue on
stock deals.
But, minority stock in a privately held company (or even many public OTC
companies) is generally worthless
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because they were failing and got a good deal, or because
they were flourishing?
Tom DeReggi
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I love this...
[quote]
Broadband wireless allows the company to provide higher-capacity services.
It can offer 100mbps on unlicensed band and 10mbps on licensed bands -
speeds unavailable with DSL. Broadband wireless also enables
[/quote]
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Wifi Station/client and Wifi WDS at the protocol level on how the protocol
makes communications. For example, can they both do CTS/RTS? Unless the
WDS
protocol is fully understood, its not possible to design networks
As one of Canopy's largest ACSPs in the US, I know all the people at Canopy
We have been talking about WISPA -- and are putting something together for a
sponsorship
Stay tuned...
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If you're serving the residential market, and price is the big concern, it's
worth noting that Canopy has a $40 / customer residential rebate program
that's been going on for almost 2 years now
It's also worth noting with Canopy that you need to add ~$10 / unit for
power supplies (they are sold
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If you're serving the residential market, and price is the big concern, it's
worth noting that Canopy has a $40 / customer
Keep in mind...although, as techies, we love to get into a my @[EMAIL
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bigger/better then yours debate, the simple fact is that there's no magic
bullet solution that will make your WISP succeed. Heck, the ones that I
see fail or stagnate are generally the ones who spend all their
Matt,
You guys are argueing about irrelevant topics
If memory serves me correctly, you provide non-oversubscribed wireless DIA
(leased line replacement) for SMB/Enterprises in a Tier1/2 urban market and
sell for $200-400 (if not higher) ARPU
Travis provides massively oversubscribed residential
snip
What I'm learning is that as my business grows, the abilty to change and
move (channel options) is becoming less important that the abilty to
effectively battle it out. The reason is that if every time I hiot noise, I
move away from the channel, eventually others take those channels.,
Orthogon/Motorola 300 is 300 aggregate (and that's air rate - if you measure
throughput w/ 1500mtu TCP packets, you're at about 260-280 Mb)
And to get that speed - it requires the requisite SNR to support 256QAM
modulation on BOTH HV within a 30 MHz channel
-Charles
Jon,
Trapeze Networks (http://www.trapezenetworks.com) has a solution that works
with 3rd party Aps and allows for seamless roaming / mobility across VLANs /
broadcast domains
Did you forget everything you learned a few weeks ago? wink
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20 mhz
channel:
TCP : 35
Mbps
UDP: 28 Mbps ( weird,
usually is the opposite )
Gino,
Keep
in mind -- if you check the Atheros "advanced feature" checkbox -- you are
turning on "super-a/g" functionality
Going
back to your testing methodology (which you haven't elaborated
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DURBIN INTRODUCES BILL TO ENCOURAGE HIGH SPEED INTERNET ACCESS IN RURAL
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Friday, August 4, 2006
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ping
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thatdefinition would include
Alvarion.
Tom DeReggi
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I personally know them, and FWIW there's a lot of bark there...
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1. yes
2. Part 101 (Same as 11, 18, 23)
3. yes
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Check out:
http://www.shorecliffcommunications.com/magazine/volume.asp?Vol=39story=365
-Charles
P.S. -- we also do frequency coordination
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Charles Wu wrote:
More importantly -- from a cochannel and receiver sensitivity
perspective -- FH doesn't get
Hi Patrick
How did you guys measure throughput? TCP / UDP / Smartbits?
Inquiring minds would like to know
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More importantly -- from a cochannel and receiver sensitivity perspective --
FH doesn't get the processing gain benefits of spread spectrum
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a whole 49 square feet, eh ? Real hard. :)
Some interesting thoughts
a whole 49 square feet, eh ? Real hard. :)
Some interesting thoughts for Friday
I forget the exact numbers, but Tropos recommends something like 20 APs /
square mile to get 95% coverage at b/g rates
49 square miles = 49*20 ~ 960 Aps
Part# MTR-52103000-500AA is a 500 pack of HotZone Aps on
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out of
curiosity (would like input from the pro net neutral people) -- would blocking
something like FON constitute a violation of net neutrality?
-Charles
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And don't forget that it's WiFi vs. a proprietary engineered outdoor WISP
protocol
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It generally isn't an issue
I'd be more worried about windmills
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ireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless
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- was OT: about 70Mbps for under $ 6K
Hi
Travis,
or products" I thought it worth chipping in
- just my £0.01's worth.
Regards
Stephen
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Screenshot of NMS from full-speed lab testing,
83Mbps UDP traffic with ~20% CPU loadhttp://www.cablefreesolutions.com/radio/HPR%20lab%20testing%20UDP.pngScreenshot
of NMS from full-speed lab testing, 74Mbps TCP/IP traffic with ~20% CPU
/Linux with WiFi drivers or whatever... but as
this thread came from vendor products I thought it worth chipping in
- just my £0.01's worth.
Regards
Stephen
CableFree Solutions
www.cablefreesolutions.com
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From: Charles Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 June 2006 20
thers; or a real DIY: build
it from bare hardware and FreeBSD/Linux with WiFi drivers or whatever... but
as this thread came from "vendor products" I thought it worth chipping in -
just my £0.01's worth.
Regards
Stephen
CableFree Solutions www.cablefreesolutions.com
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are
you planning on getting your customer an AS running
BGP?
if not
-- and you're willing to roll up your sleaves a bit, you can "hack it" w/ some
Mikrotik scripting (In my ISP days, one of my customers back in 2002/2003, Larry
Yunker actually, was doing this b/n our
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it's a
bit more complicated than OSPF if you're trying to backup ANOTHER provider's
connection (assuming separate ASes, etc)
-Charles
P.S.
-- ASes = Plural for Autonamous Systems, not that other dirty word
=/
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Hi Patrick,
For clarification purposes -- 70 Mbps is achievable only in Turbo mode (40
Mhz channel sizes) correct?
Also -- will it support a slim 5 or 10 Mhz channel mode?
-Charles
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Technology Architects
http://www.cwlab.com
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19807 Catawba Ave.
Cornelius, NC 28031
Boun Senekham (CTI Sales Rep) actually lives in Cornelius, NC -- maybe he
might know someone?
-Charles
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