] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 21:56, Robert West
wrote:
> No, you were right, I was quoting from the Guide, it's just your
response
> reminded me of the guy who worked out 42 as the actual number.
>
> Google calculator comes up with
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 21:56, Robert West wrote:
> No, you were right, I was quoting from the Guide, it's just your response
> reminded me of the guy who worked out 42 as the actual number.
>
> Google calculator comes up with 42, also, if you do a search for the
> meaning
> of life, the universe
2009 7:35 PM
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Oh, and I was giving you credit for quoting from Hitchikers Guide to
the Galaxy, where 42 was the answer to the Universal Question.
mg
At 04:11 PM 12/16/2009, you wrote:
>I read a
Don't forget the towel..
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The universal
a $200k house.
>
>Bob-
>
>
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: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
The universal answer to all questions.
I had all but forgotten it... Thanks!
now, if I could just remember
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From: "Marlon K. Schafer"
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roflol
Now THAT's funny!
So long and thanks for all the fish!
marlon
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A] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
> roflol
>
> Now THAT's funny!
>
> So long and thanks for all the fish!
> marlon
>
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> From: "Robert West"
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> Se
roflol
Now THAT's funny!
So long and thanks for all the fish!
marlon
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27;s how EVERY agency operates financially.
BTW, that's how every non-profit works too.
Why can't I play it? Just askin.
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-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
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Walks on the edge of what?
For many decades, we paid HUGE per minute prices for long distance.And
rather large sums just to
;
>>Robert West wrote:
>>> But none of those would work unless they were setup as a not for profit.
>>> Any entity that is to serve the people AND generate profit walks on the
>>> edge.
>>>
>>> Bob-
>>>
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>>>
>>>
alks on the
>> edge.
>>
>> Bob-
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of MDK
>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:37 PM
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>> Su
it will not. But it will do the best
that can be done. And government will do the worst.
And I'll stake my LIFE on that.
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From: "Robert West"
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:55 PM
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time "quality of support" is a large part of a user's
> experience, it has
> > factors that cant be measured easilly and equally for comparison
> to regulate
> > what is fair price.
> >
> > Tom DeReggi
> > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> > In
e worst.
And I'll stake my LIFE on that.
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From: "Robert West"
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> But none of those would work unles
experience, it has
> factors that cant be measured easilly and equally for comparison to regulate
> what is fair price.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Sylvest
, [broadband] is not a necessity for every member of the community. It
> Is not the business of any one to see that I use [broadband or dial-up] in
> my house, or even that I use [the Internet] at all."
>
> Here's the link to the source article: http://publicola.net/?p=20687
seen from the edges when dealing with them.
>
>
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of ccrum
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eless-boun...@wispa.org] On
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With the exception of the local civil services, I would think that if
there were a profit involved in those things, then maybe
un...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of MDK
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>
> And each of these is the evidence I have that I do NOT want them doing
, 2009 4:37 PM
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And each of these is the evidence I have that I do NOT want them doing
anything more, and I want them OUT of those things, as well.
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ilto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of RickG
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> I workde for an REA. One of the most wasteful companies I've ever seen.
> P
27;"
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> Yes, I am amazed. Amazed by the bitching and whining about government on
> this list by people who ...
>
> - sell wireless service using spectrum "owned" by everyone and allocated
> to
&g
pa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
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> The question that one must ask themself is... Is the public adeq
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch
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On Dec 13, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote:
> No, what's r
Nicely put. The same thought has crossed my mind about the diatribes people
write on these lists.
Chuck
On Dec 13, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Tim Sylvester wrote:
> Yes, I am amazed. Amazed by the bitching and whining about government on
> this list by people who ...
>
> - sell wireless service using s
On Dec 14, 2009, at 12:05 PM, RickG wrote:
> I workde for an REA. One of the most wasteful companies I've ever seen.
> Private companies could do a much better job.
Hard to know that for sure. I used to work for Lockheed. Damn they were
wasteful. And stupid too...
Certainly there is more fraud
Tim Sylvester
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:28 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
>
> Yes, I am amazed. Amazed by the bitching and whining about government on
> this list by people who ...
>
Broadband
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> Took the typing right off of my keyboard Tim. Bravo.
>
&g
take.
>
> Sorry.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:05 PM
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I workde for an REA. One of the most wasteful companies I've ever seen.
Private companies could do a much better job. Besides, I agree with our
forefathers who repeatedly said that they see no reas
I workde for an REA. One of the most wasteful companies I've ever seen.
Private companies could do a much better job. Besides, I agree with our
forefathers who repeatedly said that they see no reason for the government
to take money from some to give to others. -RickG
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:11
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 20:42, RickG wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Tim Sylvester >wrote:
> > - connect CPE equipment to electrical service that was funded by the
> Rural
> > Electric Administration.
> >
>
> Another bad deal.
>
>
I'm gonna have to call you out on this. How was the Rur
Truth is always stranger than fiction.
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to:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 6:03 PM
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>
> And whom is providing the government with the monies to do th
gt; >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Tim Sylvester
> > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:28 PM
> > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband st
of
> office next year.
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Tim Sylvester
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:28 PM
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of MDK
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:55 PM
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>
> You are correct. my apologi
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Tim Sylvester wrote:
> Yes, I am amazed. Amazed by the bitching and whining about government on
> this list by people who ...
>
> - sell wireless service using spectrum "owned" by everyone and allocated to
> them by the FCC for free or low cost.
>
Since I'm includ
ay, December 13, 2009 7:28 PM
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Yes, I am amazed. Amazed by the bitching and whining about government on
this list by people who ...
- sell wireless service using spectrum "owned"
alf Of Tim Sylvester
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:28 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
Yes, I am amazed. Amazed by the bitching and whining about government on
this list by people who ...
- sell wireless service
7:55 PM
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You are correct. my apologies to those misrepresented.
I don't mean to say everyone's in agreement on anything.Just that I see
this everywhere. NOt by everyone, just that it
Took the typing right off of my keyboard Tim. Bravo.
Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com
Tim Sylvester wrote:
> Yes, I am amazed. Amazed by the bitching and whining about government on
> this list by people who ...
>
> - sell wireless service using spectrum "owned" by everyone and allocated to
> them by
Yes, I am amazed. Amazed by the bitching and whining about government on
this list by people who ...
- sell wireless service using spectrum "owned" by everyone and allocated to
them by the FCC for free or low cost.
- sell access to the Internet, a network originally funded and developed by
DARPA a
zes them at the
competence of government.
I'd just like to know what it is I've never seen that's so widespread )
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From: "RickG"
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:00 PM
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42 is the answer.
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Thats right! And the gover
gt; times as much for it and it's virtue, caring, love, and sainthood, all in
> one package.
>
>
>
> ----------
> From: "Scottie Arnett"
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 5:20 PM
> To:
> Subject: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
>
> > <
;Scottie Arnett"
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 5:20 PM
To:
Subject: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
> < http://www.cedmagazine.com/News-Broadband-stimulus-funds-121109.aspx >
>
> "The $7.2 billion in broadband stimulus funding given out by Pr
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:22 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
>
> I have to believe we are on the cusp of some real innovation. The
> answer will not be wireless as we now know it.
10:22 AM
> To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
>
> I have to believe we are on the cusp of some real innovation. The
> answer will not be wireless as we now know it. Instead, it will be
> some sort of ul
un...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike
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I have to believe we are on the cusp of some real innovation. The
level of access. I'm conflicted because both sides in it are right, in
> >my eyes.
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> >Sent: Frid
w.ics-il.com
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From: "Scottie Arnett"
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 8:30 AM
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> There will be places that running fiber 5 mil
ispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:17 PM
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>
>A lot of organizations only consider fiber worthy of deployment going
>forward. $1500 seems a
t;Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:17 PM
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>
>A lot of organizations only consider fiber worthy of deployment going
>forward. $1500 seems about appropr
Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:20 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
< http://www.cedmagazine.com/News-Broadband-stimulus-funds-121109.aspx >
"The $7.2 billion in broadband stimulus funding given out by
nt: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
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A lot of organizations only consider fiber worthy of deployment going
forward. $1500 seems about appropriate, then.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing
ecember 11, 2009 7:48 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
>
> I found these stats interesting: "the number of households either lacking
> Internet service altogether or using dial-up connections approaches 58
> million - half of the
al Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
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I found these stats interesting: "the number
ess-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
>Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:20 PM
>To: wireless@wispa.org
>Subject: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
>
>< http://www.cedmagazine.com/News-Broadband-stimulus-funds-121109.aspx >
>
>"T
[WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
< http://www.cedmagazine.com/News-Broadband-stimulus-funds-121109.aspx >
"The $7.2 billion in broadband stimulus funding given out by President Obama
is not even close to enough to deploy truly universal broadband access,
accor
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