Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question

2011-01-10 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I do not know how the Radwin Sync works. With Canopy, you do not lose bandwidth unless you do not have the timing the same. You can adjust settings in such a way as to not step on yourself and still have different bandwidth profiles with Canopy. I do not see why sync would lose any bandwidth,

Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question

2011-01-10 Thread Jerry Richardson
like half. Does that help? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 7:31 AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS

Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question

2011-01-10 Thread Mike Hammett
-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeromie Reeves *Sent:* Monday, January 10, 2011 7:31 AM *To:* sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question I do not know how the Radwin Sync works. With Canopy, you do

Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question

2011-01-10 Thread Jerry Richardson
Hammett Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question Ubiquiti's next software release is supposed to have dynamic ratios with sync. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http

Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question

2011-01-10 Thread Josh Luthman
in the group look at APRadio11 for sync info and if it's not there look at APRadioMAC2 - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between

Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question

2011-01-10 Thread Jerry Richardson
I think it just falls to unsync'd - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question Am I

Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question

2011-01-10 Thread Mike Hammett
info and if it's not there look at APRadioMAC2 - Jerry *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, January 10, 2011 9:40 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without

Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question

2011-01-10 Thread mike
Yes, it is layer3/udp, but it is in flux. They are implementing backup masters as well. Regards Michael Baird - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 1:16:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS

Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question

2011-01-10 Thread Scott Carullo
radios back to back to reuse spectrum would be really nice. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 From: m...@tc3net.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 1:19 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync

Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question

2011-01-10 Thread Jerry Richardson
:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question Its safe to assume that the newer firmware with sync with UBNT will only work with the newer gen hardware with the gps support right. Is there any functionality that works like

Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question

2011-01-10 Thread Jerry Richardson
I should mention that you can use your non-GPS radios as stations. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 5:04 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync

Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question

2011-01-10 Thread Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 5:04 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question No. Every AP has a GPS antenna and the hardware to support sync. The timing itself is not transported over layer 3, only

[WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question

2011-01-09 Thread Scott Carullo
For the first time I synchronized multiple devices (two backhauls) at a tower site to see what it was all about. All of our gear in the past did not have the capability to sync across devices to save spectrum and/or reduce interference between local devices. In this case I used two Radwin

Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question

2011-01-09 Thread Jeremie Chism
The alvarion gear I used with their gps card did not affect bandwidth. Sent from my iPhone4 On Jan 9, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: For the first time I synchronized multiple devices (two backhauls) at a tower site to see what it was all about. All of our

Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS Question

2011-01-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Well on the same frequency I could see. On Jan 9, 2011 5:13 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: The alvarion gear I used with their gps card did not affect bandwidth. Sent from my iPhone4 On Jan 9, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: For the first time I

[WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Other than Canopy, what systems also use GPS sync? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Chuck Profito
GPS :-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] GPS synced systems Other than Canopy, what systems also use GPS sync? -- - Mike

Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Gino Villarini
Any Wimax based Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA

Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Richardson
Redline 3.65? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] GPS synced systems Other than Canopy, what systems also use GPS sync

Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Jeremie Chism
14, 2010 9:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] GPS synced systems Other than Canopy, what systems also use GPS sync? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Steven G McGehee
-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] GPS synced systems Other than Canopy, what systems also use GPS sync? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Rubens Kuhl
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] GPS synced systems Other than Canopy, what systems also use GPS sync? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics

Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Randy Cosby
jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Redline 3.65? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] GPS synced systems Other than Canopy

Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Freylekhman, Alex
wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] GPS synced systems Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Other than Canopy, what systems also use GPS sync? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Eric Muehleisen
14, 2010 9:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] GPS synced systems Other than Canopy, what systems also use GPS sync? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: Redline Redmax AN-100U and UX both use GPS. I know that Airspan and Alvarions 3.65 products also use GPS. I believe anything 802.16d/e uses GPS. 802.16d FDD gear (like one from Alvarion) doesn't require GPS if memory

Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Going in a different direction... Can you reuse a given frequency on every sector around a tower (4x or 6x), or are you limited to something less than that? Do you get full capacity on each sector, or are you limited to some percentage of that full capacity if you use the same channel all the

Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
With standard FSK Canopy (7/14 Mbps) you can re-use frequencies on back-to-back sectors only. There is no throughput hit for doing so. Think about what the GPS sync does- it causes all AP transmission timeslots to occur simultaneously, and all receive timeslots to be synchronized. So colocated

Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
and then ALL APs transmit simultaneously, not sequentially, correct? (others disagree) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 6/14/2010 3:41 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Going in a different direction... Can you reuse a given frequency on every sector

Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
That's what I thought you'd need and would happen. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 6/14/2010 3:50 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: With standard FSK Canopy (7/14 Mbps) you can re-use frequencies on back-to-back sectors only. There is no throughput hit

Re: [WISPA] GPS synced systems

2010-06-14 Thread Matt Jenkins
Correst On 06/14/2010 01:57 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: and then ALL APs transmit simultaneously, not sequentially, correct? (others disagree) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 6/14/2010 3:41 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Going in a different

Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-08 Thread Randy Cosby
We have one running on a FreeBSD server. I'll have to look at how Aaron set it up, but I'm sure there are plenty of software packages out there that can do this. http://time.qnan.org/ is a linux example. Mikrotiks can also act as GPS NTP time servers using the optional NTP server package.

Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-08 Thread Mike Hammett
General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server? Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains timing from GPS? I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+. The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free -- so one

Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-08 Thread Gino Villarini
. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:41 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server? Anyone

Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-08 Thread Jayson Baker
PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server? Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains timing from GPS? I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+. The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's

Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-08 Thread Jayson Baker
, 2009 5:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server? Oh yeah, that's right, the MT will do that. Ok - any suggestions on an decent GPS receiver that is outdoor/weatherproof and has a serial connection? I've found a bunch of USB, a couple that are serial and meant to go

Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-08 Thread ralph
, September 07, 2009 7:41 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server? Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains timing from GPS? I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+. The PCI cards can be had

[WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-07 Thread Jayson Baker
Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains timing from GPS? I spent a few minutes on Google and found a couple that were $1000+. The PCI cards can be had for about $50, antenna's are almost free -- so one could build one, but I'd prefer an out of the box solution that

Re: [WISPA] GPS NTP Server?

2009-09-07 Thread RickG
Dont know the price but this is sweet -- http://www.ntp-time-server.com/time-servers/server-gps-clock.html On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Jayson Bakerjay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Anyone know of a place to buy a rackmount NTP server that obtains timing from GPS? I spent a few minutes on

Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-31 Thread ccrum
what that system is... Thanks, Cam -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software It might be cheaper just

Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-29 Thread ccrum
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and post

Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-29 Thread Josh Luthman
me know what that system is... Thanks, Cam -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software It might

[WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-28 Thread Cameron Kilton
I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able to give customers a realistic coverage map of their town after I deploy the site. The idea: Rig vehicle with several antennas and drive around the town with Laptop and GPS unit connected to it and mark areas with coverage.

Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-28 Thread Jack Unger
I don't know what type of network you have deployed (are you serving laptops directly?) but your method should work OK if a) You do 2-way throughput testing to/from the mobile setup. b) You use a CPE that's the same as your normal CPE. c) You use an antenna that is equivalent to your normal

Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-28 Thread Brian Webster
It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and post that information. I know someone who does that kind of work :-) Thank You, Brian Webster Cameron Kilton wrote: I have new site that I'm working on for deployment and want to be able to give customers a realistic

Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-28 Thread Josh Luthman
The biggest problem with your idea will be the fact you're on the ground - not going to work too well for 2.4 and 5.x. 900 will be better, but not ideal. The better part of what you're doing is if you see a -75 somewhere, then the houses adjacent are going to be greater to or equal! Starting

Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software

2009-08-28 Thread Cameron Kilton
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS mapping software It might be cheaper just to pay someone to do RF propagation maps and post that information. I

[WISPA] GPS

2008-01-29 Thread Mike Hammett
I am looking at getting a GPS device. I'd like it to work with many different programs such as Google Earth, Radio Mobile, Kismet, etc. What sort of features do I need it to have to work with these programs? I'd also like to have it be an independent unit with elevation so I can climb a tower

Re: [WISPA] GPS

2008-01-29 Thread Travis Johnson
Mike, The elevation reading on a GPS is only accurate to within about 30 feet. Using one to measure tower height is not going to product accurate results. Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: I am looking at getting a GPS device. I'd like it to work with many different programs such as

Re: [WISPA] GPS

2008-01-29 Thread Chuck McCown
: [WISPA] GPS I am looking at getting a GPS device. I'd like it to work with many different programs such as Google Earth, Radio Mobile, Kismet, etc. What sort of features do I need it to have to work with these programs? I'd also like to have it be an independent unit with elevation so I can

Re: [WISPA] GPS

2008-01-29 Thread Mike Hammett
://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Mike, The elevation reading on a GPS is only accurate to within about 30 feet. Using one to measure tower

Re: [WISPA] GPS

2008-01-29 Thread Bryan Scott
Mike Hammett wrote: I am looking at getting a GPS device. I'd like it to work with many different programs such as Google Earth, Radio Mobile, Kismet, etc. What sort of features do I need it to have to work with these programs? I'd also like to have it be an independent unit with

Re: [WISPA] GPS

2008-01-29 Thread Cliff LeBoeuf
get accurate elevation measurements. Without elevation figures are pretty bad on a hand held device. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 11:11 AM Subject: [WISPA] GPS I am looking

Re: [WISPA] GPS

2008-01-29 Thread Don Renner
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS We've been using the Garmin 70 and 60 series with altimeter (as opposed to elevation from map data). Garmin claims an accuracy of 10 feet with proper calibration. Even with fluxgate

Re: [WISPA] GPS

2008-01-29 Thread ted
We've been using the Garmin 70 and 60 series with altimeter (as opposed to elevation from map data). Garmin claims an accuracy of 10 feet with proper calibration. Even with fluxgate, the electronic compass is unreliable near towers. Has anyone used a gyrocompass? ted On Tue, 29 Jan 2008,

Re: [WISPA] GPS

2008-01-29 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
, January 29, 2008 1:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS We've been using the Garmin 70 and 60 series with altimeter (as opposed to elevation from map data). Garmin claims an accuracy of 10 feet with proper calibration. Even with fluxgate, the electronic compass is unreliable near

Re: [WISPA] GPS

2008-01-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: [WISPA] GPS I am looking at getting a GPS device. I'd like it to work with many different programs such as Google Earth, Radio Mobile, Kismet, etc. What sort of features do I need it to have to work

Re: [WISPA] GPS

2008-01-29 Thread Ryan Langseth
- From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: [WISPA] GPS I am looking at getting a GPS device. I'd like it to work with many different programs such as Google Earth, Radio Mobile, Kismet, etc. What sort

[WISPA] GPS coords

2007-12-04 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'm finishing up on the link map/spreadsheet to send you. How accurate does the GPS coords need to be, for Freq Coord study? I'm using Google Earth. I can go as far as zooming in and marking the GPS coords for the exact antenna positions. Or I can pick a center spot of the building. Confusion

RE: [WISPA] GPS coords

2007-12-04 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 1:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] GPS coords I'm finishing up on the link map/spreadsheet to send you. How accurate does the GPS coords need to be, for Freq Coord study? I'm using Google Earth. I can go as far as zooming in and marking the GPS coords

[WISPA] GPS

2007-08-16 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Has anyone equipped their installer vehicles with dash-mounted GPS systems? We have been using the cheap USB GPS adapters with the installers laptops and using Streets 2007. This works pretty well, but now with the prices down on the dash mount models, I'm wondering about installing

RE: [WISPA] GPS

2007-08-16 Thread Ralph
Subject: [WISPA] GPS Hi, Has anyone equipped their installer vehicles with dash-mounted GPS systems? We have been using the cheap USB GPS adapters with the installers laptops and using Streets 2007. This works pretty well, but now with the prices down on the dash mount models, I'm wondering

[WISPA] GPS Recievers

2006-03-10 Thread Dan Petermann
I'm looking for very good GPS receivers. I've used Trimble in the past and found them to be very good, but expensive. That was back in 1998 - 2001. I'd like to get sub-meter accuracy if the price is right. When dealing with mountain tops and ridge lines, 100' off can put you at the

RE: [WISPA] GPS Recievers

2006-03-10 Thread Brian Webster
PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] GPS Recievers I'm looking for very good GPS receivers. I've used Trimble in the past and found them to be very good, but expensive. That was back in 1998 - 2001. I'd like to get sub-meter accuracy if the price is right. When dealing with mountain tops

RE: [WISPA] GPS Recievers

2006-03-10 Thread Steve Thomas
/lurk You should be able to get accuracy to 20 feet or better in most situations. I routinely get 15' accuracy with my GPSMAP 60C. 9' is not uncommon. The best I've seen it was last weekend, when I had 6' accuracy while out in the desert east of San Diego. I'm a big Garmin fan. Both GPS units