: Keith Willis; Kris R Efland
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Our mail server is problem free. Keith at Talon built it for us.
For spam and virus' we use Postini.
I'm also looking at BOSS. http://intrameta.com/ Very close to the WNoc
system I was involved in years ago. I've
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From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Ross, you need to come up here and use my AR-15 to do the shooting
Much more fun to blow 30 small holes
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
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From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
you are right. I will have to come there, cus this poor state is trying
/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
- Original Message -
From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
you are right. I will have to come there, cus this poor
@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 2:35 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Muto whins, Rick responds, George puffs up and threatens Dee, Dee
apoligies,
Muto dis's the apology.
Very mature guy's.
- Original Message -
From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA
7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
As a PAYING supporting vendor of WISPA and co-sponsor for ISPCON, I take
offense to this direct marketing of a competitive service. Last I looked
on the WISPA website, neither Barracuda or Alaska Wireless Systems had a
logo displayed
: Thursday, May 17, 2007 2:35 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Muto whins, Rick responds, George puffs up and threatens Dee, Dee
apoligies,
Muto dis's the apology.
Very mature guy's.
- Original Message - From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List
]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Currently we do in-house email. We always have one problem or another
with
our old IMail server ,plus dealing with a spam server and antivirus... We
have about 15 domains
: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
I appreciate it, but the financial side of it has my attention. .It is
truly a depreciable asset as long As I own it. I would lose that if I sold
it.
So, i will still shoot it... and place it in a trophy case and thenpost
the video for you all
John Scrivner wrote:
Very good points George. Frank has definitely worked hard to show his
support of WISPA and deserves our gratitude for sure. Frank, we all
thank you for everything you have done and continue to do for WISPA. You
are a friend to our organization and we appreciate you very
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Be offended about what? How much someone is charging for Anti SPAM service
using a Barracuda?
The Barracuda's are fixed cost based on the device type, so
Ross Cornett wrote:
I have a barracuda for sale if anyone is interrested off list. Switched
from Postini to Barracuda and it was like I turned off their oxigen.
Had to go back to postini.
So, if you are interrested email me off list. I will make you a deal
Fair warning for anyone who's
: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Ross Cornett wrote:
I have a barracuda for sale if anyone is interrested off list. Switched
from Postini to Barracuda and it was like I turned off their oxigen.
Had to go back to postini.
So, if you are interrested email me off list. I will make you a deal
used it for 2 months...
couldn't stand the cryout from the customers that were so used to
Postini.
thanks.
- Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs
will do, no problems here...
Ross
- Original Message -
From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
I think what Dave was trying to make a point about
it, you are bound by it... I will update the list if I
find any better answer.
Ross
- Original Message -
From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
I think what
: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Well, my first contact to Barracuda was exactly that. I am diggin in
deeper to better understand their policy. But, they did tell me they will
not support a device that they did not sell directly.
Wow, that is hidden deep into their users agreement. Since
://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Ross Cornett wrote:
I have a barracuda for sale if anyone is interrested off list
, 2007 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Well, my first contact to Barracuda was exactly that. I am diggin in
deeper to better understand their policy. But, they did tell me they will
not support a device that they did not sell directly.
Wow, that is hidden
AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Like Microsoft? If you read user agreements, you will find that many
software vendors do not allow license transfer.
Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless
Mike Hammett wrote:
I'd refuse to do business with a company like
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Ok. It is final. You cannot resell your Barracuda box to anyone and expect
Barracuda to license it. I just spoke with a VP of sales and he said just
that. I told him that they should tell people this when they buy them
.
Ross
- Original Message -
From: Brandon Brownlee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:46 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
You may consider leasing the server? Perhaps you can deal with support and
licensing
.
JohnnyO
- Original Message -
From: W.D.McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Hi Folks,
As a Diamond Reseller for Barracuda Networks, we take the pain out of
dealing
Cisco? *ducking and running away in a serpentine fashion*
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Like Microsoft
-2226 Fax
1(907)349-4308 Office
www.akwireless.net
- Original Message -
From: JohnnyO
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 16 May 2007 08:37:14 -0800
Subject:
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Barracuda should offer a buy back
Ross Cornett wrote:
No buy
back no resale, no good, but I will have fun when I take my .270 and try
to paint a smiley face on it from 200 yards away.
Dude, I'll totally give you fifty bucks for it.
(I'm serious.)
If you're not interested in using it as a Barracuda, hey, it's still a
decent
JohnnyO wrote:
Dee - that is just it though - The quotes you gave me as well as other
Barracuda owners, was about 3X the amount someone should be paying for
this type of service through a larger Web/Email hosting firm.
This is what I originally stated might offend some of the barracuda
NOpe... worth more to me to shoot it...
Ross
- Original Message -
From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Ross Cornett wrote:
No buy
back no resale
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To: WISPA General List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 16 May 2007 10:23:08 -0800
Subject:
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
NOpe... worth more to me to shoot it...
Ross
- Original Message -
From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Ross Cornett wrote:
NOpe... worth more to me to shoot it...
Not wanting to start a bidding war, but where do you draw that line?
I may have a use for it, too (assuming the price is not too much).
--
Butch Evans
Network Engineering and Security Consulting
573-276-2879
David E. Smith wrote:
JohnnyO wrote:
Dee - that is just it though - The quotes you gave me as well as other
Barracuda owners, was about 3X the amount someone should be paying for
this type of service through a larger Web/Email hosting firm.
This is why I can't consider an outsourced email
Butch Evans wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Ross Cornett wrote:
NOpe... worth more to me to shoot it...
Not wanting to start a bidding war, but where do you draw that line? I
may have a use for it, too (assuming the price is not too much).
Okay, sixty dollars, but that's my final offer. :)
George Rogato wrote:
David E. Smith wrote:
JohnnyO wrote:
Dee - that is just it though - The quotes you gave me as well as other
Barracuda owners, was about 3X the amount someone should be paying for
this type of service through a larger Web/Email hosting firm.
This is why I can't
straight from Barracuda
- Original Message -
From: W.D.McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Ross,
Who did you buy that unit from? If you boaught it from a reseller
@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Ross Cornett wrote:
NOpe... worth more to me to shoot it...
Not wanting to start a bidding war, but where do you draw that line? I may
have a use for it, too (assuming the price
As a PAYING supporting vendor of WISPA and co-sponsor for ISPCON, I take
offense to this direct marketing of a competitive service. Last I looked on
the WISPA website, neither Barracuda or Alaska Wireless Systems had a logo
displayed, unless you are a paid associate vendor.
Frank Muto
President
OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Frank Muto
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Frank, you are right on
Dee, you owe Frank Muto an immediate apology. Frank is a paid WISPA
vendor member and has supported WISPA efforts in so many ways that no
other vendor or wireless member has come close to.
You Dee, have been on the various wireless lists for many years and you
fully
You were a bit nicer than I was Rick, and I actually like Dee.
George
Rick Harnish wrote:
I do have to agree with Frank here. Dee, please contact the WISPA board if
you plan on promoting your sales position with Barracuda on this list,
especially at the expense of a paying Vendor member.
Imagestream Router WAN Cards
Force10 Networks Reseller
- Original Message -
From: Frank Muto
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 16 May 2007 16:55:33 -0800
Subject:
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
As a PAYING supporting vendor
: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Hi Frank,
I was not saying anything for or against you, Postini or Barracuda.
If you you took offense at my statements, my apologies.
Cheers,
-Dee
Alaska Wireless Systems
1(907)240-2183 Cell
1(907)349-2226 Fax
1(907)349-4308 Office
www.akwireless.net
] Outsourced vs in-house email
Currently we do in-house email. We always have one problem or
another with
our old IMail server ,plus dealing with a spam server and
antivirus... We
have about 15 domains we currently host, about 150 users. Is it cost
effective to outsource something this small? Also
Doug Ratcliffe wrote:
Currently we do in-house email. We always have one problem or another with
our old IMail server ,plus dealing with a spam server and antivirus... We
have about 15 domains we currently host, about 150 users. Is it cost
effective to outsource something this small? Also on
Peter R. wrote:
Everybody.net does outsourced email.
Assuming you mean everyone.net (everybody.net points to an outfit in
Norway), just say no. Their mail servers are on a lot of spam blacklists
both public and private, because they used to make a lot of money from
free email for your domain
Currently we do in-house email. We always have one problem or another with
our old IMail server ,plus dealing with a spam server and antivirus... We
have about 15 domains we currently host, about 150 users. Is it cost
effective to outsource something this small? Also on a similar note, does
Fax
1(907)349-4308 Office
www.akwireless.net
- Original Message -
From: Doug Ratcliffe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:12:41 -0800
Subject:
[WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Currently we do in-house email. We
, 2007 6:12 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Currently we do in-house email. We always have one problem or another
with
our old IMail server ,plus dealing with a spam server and antivirus... We
have about 15 domains we currently host, about 150 users. Is it cost
effective
: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Currently we do in-house email. We always have one problem or another
with
our old IMail server ,plus dealing with a spam server and antivirus... We
have about 15 domains we currently host, about 150 users. Is it cost
effective to outsource something
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