Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-10-01 Thread Blake Covarrubias
I'm not sure how many of your are on the NANOG list, but there's a very interesting thread going on about RIP vs other routing protocols. Figured some people may want to read this. http://www.mail-archive.com/na...@nanog.org/msg26990.html -- Blake Covarrubias On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:21 PM,

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-10-01 Thread RickG
Blake, thanks for passing this on. It appears to be split on whether they would use RIP or not. Of course, it really depends on a number of factors with size being one of those. My network is relatively small and I just use RIP to keep the static routes clean. I could see updating to another

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-10-01 Thread Rubens Kuhl
Is RIP solid?  It's been around for decades, and I used it extensively in the beginning years when I was doing everything.  But it seems that we have many problems lately and RIP is being blamed for it.  It's a very easy protocol to administer configure, not too complicated, so I can't

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-03 Thread RickG
One of the best network engineers I've ever met, who was a owner/operator of a fairly large, local ISP and currently owns/operates a fairly large datacenter, helped me with some initial issues I had in our expanding network. 3 years ago, he suggested I switch from zero routing protocol to RIP. I

[WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
We ran into a problem yesterday that caused a large problem, and I'm now quite sure that it was assessed properly, as our network engineer blamed it on RIP not working properly and made the decision to implement BGP for routing at this site. Everywhere else, we're using RIP. Essentially, we

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Dennis Burgess
] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols We ran into a problem yesterday that caused a large problem, and I'm now quite sure that it was assessed properly, as our network engineer blamed

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Jeromie Reeves
RIP is a obsolete routing protocol, OSPF should be used instead. RIP has a number of flaws and is insecure (well v2 adds passwords). RIP does not handle loops and has a limit on the depth of routers. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: We ran into a

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
1:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols RIP is a obsolete routing protocol, OSPF should be used instead. RIP has a number of flaws and is insecure (well v2 adds passwords). RIP does not handle loops and has a limit on the depth of routers. On Thu, Sep

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 2 September 2010 14:25, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net wrote: Agreed...there are some old routers that don't support OSPF though. Nortel is one (or at least was). If you have a device old enough to only support RIP, said device should be discarded. Seriously. Get off of RIP and

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
loops. - Original Message - From: Jeremy Parr To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols On 2 September 2010 14:25, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net wrote: Agreed...there are some old

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread L. Aaron Kaplan
On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:16 PM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: I appreciate advice in many cases, but for this one, I have only heard one answer to the question... That is: Is RIP stable? That person that answered said Yes. Sure, if you want to have stable routing loops :)) PGP.sig

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
wrong if I need to. If it's stable and works like it should ;) Thus my question... - Original Message - From: L. Aaron Kaplan To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:16 PM

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Dennis Burgess
- Lists Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols I appreciate advice in many cases, but for this one, I have only heard one answer to the question... That is: Is RIP stable? That person that answered said Yes

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 2 September 2010 16:38, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: We know how to avoid routing loops. As I said before, RIP has been around for decades and I know it well. Our engineer wants to get us into OSPF, which I have no experience with and don't understand. Since I don't

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
mirrors masking an ACTUAL problem. - Original Message - From: Jeremy Parr To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols On 2 September 2010 16:38, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: We

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
for a laugh and a nod for those who understand us older guys and our older protocols. - Original Message - From: Mark Nash - Lists To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols Yes, there are lots

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 13:16 -0700, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: I appreciate advice in many cases, but for this one, I have only heard one answer to the question... That is: Is RIP stable? That person that answered said Yes. If the question is Is RIP stable?, then the answer is yes. What

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 13:16 -0700, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: I appreciate advice in many cases, but for this one, I have only heard one answer to the question... That is: Is RIP stable? That person that answered said Yes. If the question is Is RIP

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Jeromie Reeves
- From: Jeremy Parr To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols On 2 September 2010 16:38, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: We know how to avoid routing loops.  As I said before, RIP has been around