03, 2011 2:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
LOL.
The question I have is
Was OLD BOY on a per antenna or per grain leg contract?
Meaning, to accommodate OLD HAM's Request, did Old boy get consessions of
getting free colo
idDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Robert West
To: 'WISPA General List'
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Update on the competitor situation.
T
have first right on all three bands. Saved us more than once
- Jerry
*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
*On Behalf Of *Robert West
*Sent:* Saturday, January 01, 2011 2:22 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competi
Sent:* Saturday, January 01, 2011 2:22 PM
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> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
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> But they aren’t on the same grain legs, just within LOS of each other. But
> as far as getting things on paper, you’
Smart way to operate, IMO.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 5:34 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
We have first right on all three
We have first right on all three bands. Saved us more than once
- Jerry
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Robert West
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 2:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor h
day, January 01, 2011 4:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Bottom line in all this is very simple.
When your the first on a grainleg - make a contract that is rock solid.
Get the right of first refusal on any frequency and get it on paper.
Ha! Ain't that the truth!
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 11:24 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Even if they're wrong
Bottom line in all this is very simple.
When your the first on a grainleg - make a contract that is rock solid.
Get the right of first refusal on any frequency and get it on paper.
While handshakes are nice - paper wins hands down.
On Jan 1, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Even if th
Even if they're wrong, you won't win!
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 12/31/2010 4:04 PM, Robert West wrote:
Update on the competitor situation.
Today was the big meeting between old boy, new boy and the owners of
the grain legs that new boy is o
Update on the competitor situation.
Today was the big meeting between old boy, new boy and the owners of the
grain legs that new boy is on.
Again, old boy is related in a roundabout way to the grain legs owners but
they decided not to have him do this project for them.
Everyone showed
ptops.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:22 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
I did a climb for a local WISP back in 2002. We put a 325 f
xISP News
http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter
Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support
From: Ryan Goldberg
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 15:14:08 +
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Hey hey hey
...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 8:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Well I was thinking an amp was involved to compensate...
On Dec 29, 2010 9:15 PM, "Robert West"
mailto:robert.w...@just-mi
or worse.
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> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 9:05 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject:
bably disappear for a while, work is piling up.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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> - Original Message -
> *From:* Chuck Hogg
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 29, 2010 5:19 PM
Thats optimal if you can do it. Many times you have personality conflicts.
I'm second owner here. The previous owner did not get along at all with the
competition. I changed all that and in their demise they gave me first right
of refusals on some of their towers.
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 5:32 PM,
I was gonna say the same! I have my own WISP archive from 6 years on this
list and could put together a book using Tom's writings! Thanks Tom!
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
> Tom:
>
> I'm always impressed with the time you take in writing the responses you
> do. I wish I ha
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Well I was thinking an amp was involved to compensate...
On Dec 29, 2010 9:15 PM, "Robert West" wrote:
> That's what I thought too especially since he's probably using a 12dbi
omni
> or worse.
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to:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 9:05 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
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> Coax up the tower? There has to be some serious loss there.
>
> Josh Luth
isp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support
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From: Robert West
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 20:24:54 -0500
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Actually he did do a scan and in a normal situation ther
ess@wispa.org
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Why don't the two WISPS peer with each other? That seems like a much better
outcome to me. Coordinate all your gear together, go in together on backhaul
etc.
Form a strategic
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 3:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
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This is different than having to deal with consumer routers.
This is a matter of
esday, December 29, 2010 3:36 PM
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I agree with your analysis but unless NB is very knowledgeable and sharp in
explaining the law there is a good chance that OB is going to convince or
confuse the audience at that meeting that
work Support
From: Robert West
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 20:24:54 -0500
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Actually he did do a scan and in a normal situation there would be plenty
of room for both however o
o:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:22 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Have everyone use Canopy, sync the aps together, and problems go away. Or
wait for UBNT AirSync.
Regards,
Chuck
On
little with his network
engenerring, in my opinion.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 2:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Here is m
Briliant!
- Jerry
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Brian Webster
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 3:44 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Or better yet turn off those silly Omni si
nnel
plans.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Charles N Wyble
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 5:33 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
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List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
I agree with your analysis but unless NB is very knowledgeable and sharp in
explaining the law there is a good chance that OB is going to convince or
confuse the audience at that meeting that NB is the villain who should be
thrown of
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From: Chuck Hogg
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Tom:
I'm always impressed with the time you take in writing the responses you do.
I wish I had that kin
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Why don't the two WISPS peer with each other? That seems like a much
better outcome to me. Coordinate all your gear together, go in together
on backhaul etc.
Form a strategic partnership.
- --
Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com)
Systems craft
I upgraded our main billing server hard disks in the time it took to
write that reply... :)
Travis
Microserv
On 12/29/2010 3:19 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
Tom:
I'm always impressed with the time you take in writing the responses
you do. I wish I had that kind of time, I barely have enough time
Tom:
I'm always impressed with the time you take in writing the responses you do.
I wish I had that kind of time, I barely have enough time to read them.
Regards,
Chuck
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
> Robert,
>
> Still missing some relevent detail...
>
> New WISP uses
Robert,
Still missing some relevent detail...
New WISP uses 2.4 sectors.
Is the Old WISP boy also using 2.4G sectors?
As well, is the Rocket gear Single Pol or MIMO dual pol gear?
Expecially, is the new provider's 5.8G PTP and Rocket Sectors MIMO?
Legally- Part15 means everyone must deploy assu
:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
*On Behalf Of *Sam Tetherow
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 29, 2010 12:21 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Not sure how 'old boy's' (OB) crappy network design is &#x
ay, December 29, 2010 12:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Not sure how 'old boy's' (OB) crappy network design is 'new boy's' (NB)
problem. Unlicensed spectrum is just that, unlicensed, if he wants protection
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:22 AM
To: WISPA General List
language for exclusivity on
3.65, 5.2, 5.4, and whatever unused channels there are on 5.8.
- Jerry
*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
*On Behalf Of *Robert West
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:01 AM
*To:* 'WISPA General List'
*Subject:* Re:
I had this happen once. We met and decided that even though I was the old
boy, I went ahead and switched to 900MHz. In the end, we got all the NLOS
customers and he only got the fewer LOS.
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Robert West wrote:
> I’m throwing this out there for another WISP to see i
> king of the roost since he was first in.
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> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:22 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] C
obert West
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:01 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Problem is old boy doesn't want to change a thing, he seems to think he's king
of the roost since he was first in.
From: wireless-boun...@wisp
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 2:01 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a compe
ubject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Have everyone use Canopy, sync the aps together, and problems go away. Or
wait for UBNT AirSync.
Regards,
Chuck
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Robert West
wrote:
I'm throwing this out there for another WISP to see if anyone has
, a poorly designed
network that will never tolerate interference.
Good thoughts, thanks.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 12:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Can't make a c
Rather than 3.65 is there a reason not to use 5GHz? I haven't tested
the DTS stuff yet, but if it works in AirMax it would open plenty of
spectrum (assuming you don't have radar issues). Even so I would look
at 5MHz Airmax channels in the 5GHz range, if old wisp is running 2.4
shouldn't be an
Have everyone use Canopy, sync the aps together, and problems go away. Or
wait for UBNT AirSync.
Regards,
Chuck
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Robert West wrote:
> I’m throwing this out there for another WISP to see if anyone has any
> experience with something like this or any ideas.
>
>
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