Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-10-01 Thread Blake Covarrubias
I'm not sure how many of your are on the NANOG list, but there's a very interesting thread going on about RIP vs other routing protocols. Figured some people may want to read this. http://www.mail-archive.com/na...@nanog.org/msg26990.html -- Blake Covarrubias On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:21 PM,

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-10-01 Thread RickG
Blake, thanks for passing this on. It appears to be split on whether they would use RIP or not. Of course, it really depends on a number of factors with size being one of those. My network is relatively small and I just use RIP to keep the static routes clean. I could see updating to another

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-10-01 Thread Rubens Kuhl
Is RIP solid?  It's been around for decades, and I used it extensively in the beginning years when I was doing everything.  But it seems that we have many problems lately and RIP is being blamed for it.  It's a very easy protocol to administer configure, not too complicated, so I can't

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-03 Thread RickG
One of the best network engineers I've ever met, who was a owner/operator of a fairly large, local ISP and currently owns/operates a fairly large datacenter, helped me with some initial issues I had in our expanding network. 3 years ago, he suggested I switch from zero routing protocol to RIP. I

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Dennis Burgess
RIP should work just fine, however, there are things that need to occur and work for RIP to work. Same thing with OSPF. So what looks like a RIP issue can actually be a multi-cast issue, or some other configuration issue that may go unnoticed. Something could change, etc. So that's the issue

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Jeromie Reeves
RIP is a obsolete routing protocol, OSPF should be used instead. RIP has a number of flaws and is insecure (well v2 adds passwords). RIP does not handle loops and has a limit on the depth of routers. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: We ran into a

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
1:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols RIP is a obsolete routing protocol, OSPF should be used instead. RIP has a number of flaws and is insecure (well v2 adds passwords). RIP does not handle loops and has a limit on the depth of routers. On Thu, Sep

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 2 September 2010 14:25, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net wrote: Agreed...there are some old routers that don't support OSPF though. Nortel is one (or at least was). If you have a device old enough to only support RIP, said device should be discarded. Seriously. Get off of RIP and

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
loops. - Original Message - From: Jeremy Parr To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols On 2 September 2010 14:25, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net wrote: Agreed...there are some old

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread L. Aaron Kaplan
On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:16 PM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: I appreciate advice in many cases, but for this one, I have only heard one answer to the question... That is: Is RIP stable? That person that answered said Yes. Sure, if you want to have stable routing loops :)) PGP.sig

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
wrong if I need to. If it's stable and works like it should ;) Thus my question... - Original Message - From: L. Aaron Kaplan To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:16 PM

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Dennis Burgess
- Lists Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols I appreciate advice in many cases, but for this one, I have only heard one answer to the question... That is: Is RIP stable? That person that answered said Yes

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 2 September 2010 16:38, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: We know how to avoid routing loops. As I said before, RIP has been around for decades and I know it well. Our engineer wants to get us into OSPF, which I have no experience with and don't understand. Since I don't

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
mirrors masking an ACTUAL problem. - Original Message - From: Jeremy Parr To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols On 2 September 2010 16:38, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: We

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
for a laugh and a nod for those who understand us older guys and our older protocols. - Original Message - From: Mark Nash - Lists To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols Yes, there are lots

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 13:16 -0700, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: I appreciate advice in many cases, but for this one, I have only heard one answer to the question... That is: Is RIP stable? That person that answered said Yes. If the question is Is RIP stable?, then the answer is yes. What

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 13:16 -0700, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: I appreciate advice in many cases, but for this one, I have only heard one answer to the question... That is: Is RIP stable? That person that answered said Yes. If the question is Is RIP

Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

2010-09-02 Thread Jeromie Reeves
- From: Jeremy Parr To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols On 2 September 2010 16:38, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: We know how to avoid routing loops.  As I said before, RIP has been around