connected to, and for
other hotspot type devices, it meant getting student life involved to have the
interfering device turned off.
[Oklahoma Baptist University]
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that isn’t worth it.
Thomas Carter
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Austin College
900 North Grand Avenue
Sherman, TX 75090
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Se
The short answer is don’t do this. The longer answer is the FCC frowns on rogue
mitigation:
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2015/08/19/fcc-fines-company-75-for-disabling-conference-hotspots/
Look at the notice from the FCC down about ½ the page.
Thomas Carter
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looking at cell phones.
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Sen
) or a traditional laptop.
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But in the specific case of cloud vs on-prem wireless, what is the case to save
1 FTE? I would contend the vast majority of day-to-day work in wireless isn't
affected by the location of the controller.
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to be the best option is in the >25 to <100 AP market
(<25 easily fits into Aruba Instant, Ruckus Unleashed, etc) or the small
business vendor-managed market.
Thomas Carter
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Phone:
1 day (24 hours).
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seem to cause interference, but we don't have a wide spread deployment
like this would be.
What is it with vendors wanting to use 2.4 for everything? The 900MHz band is
part of the 802.15.4 standard and should theoretically have longer range to
boot.
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager / IT
use
backup.
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We have had a few issues crop up (most recently a Google Home Mini) that seems
to be rate related (won't connect even to an open network). What is the general
rate configuration being used out there? What rates do you have disabled?
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager / IT
Austin Col
As Brian said, it is nice in theory; the reality is you don’t get the capital
increase or the personnel.
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You’re correct, but it just sucks that we now have to justify a 30+% increase
in capital spent on wireless infrastructure for something that (at least
according to those who manage the budgets) worked fine 5 years ago, AKA why do
you need to put 50 APs in a building that once had 30?
Thomas
phones. These only pop up on
off hours and are difficult to track down and "prove" who was doing it.
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Great response. Maybe you should have them purchase some of these:
http://www.safespaceprotection.com/electrostress-from-wireless-routers.aspx
This magical sticker "radiates a six ft protective field". They can just stick
one to their shoe or hat or whatever.
Thomas Carter
Network &a
Sorry, I was mostly complaining about the one-per-room that vendors have been
trying to push. If they really will cover multiple rooms, that’s a different
option.
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Austin College
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rooms
is only 2x the cost of a single in-room solution. For example, the dilemma I
face is there is money to replace 6-8 year old APs and I can do one hall or 3-4
(with no guarantees of future money), which do you choose?
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Microsoft,
Apple, and Google), and customers about these kind of changes. Why do we have
to figure this out at all? It shouldn't be this hard.
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rooms. No
guarantees of availability in the event of a power outage. Or switches that
support little used buildings. We do use UPSes, but only where they make sense.
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to a UPS (lightning
strike killed the UPS and the switches behind it).
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How are your data rates configured? I seem to recall something about Apple
devices that used to be picky about it. We don't have Cisco, but we have 12 as
Mandatory and everything lower disabled for NG.
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager / IT
Austin College
900 North Grand Av
Depending on the setup and purpose, the certs could be exported and shared to
people/devices not intended; it may be assumed that will not happen.
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of security and identity. In a
past life in the corporate world we did a PEAP solution with locked down
certificates, but we tightly controlled all the end-points as well (only
corporate owned devices allowed on the corp network).
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager / IT
Austin College
WiFi off
and back on and see if it improves the signal or performance.
That is interesting that the AirPort utility has a WiFi scanner; having an
iPhone myself that can come in handy.
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Is it restricted to only "gadgets and games", or is it used for laptops as
well? A majority of the services our students use are Internet facing also, so
Internet-only access would still give them access to the services they need.
I assume there is an authenticated SSID also?
Tho
The specs do say you can power it by PoE+ (802.3at).
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We have a small deployment of Stanley locks for special needs students; they
aren't 802.11 wireless, but are 802.15.4 (on 2.4GHz) wireless. I only bring
this up as it uses dedicated Stanly gateways, and we had to work to minimize
the cross-interference between the two systems.
Thomas Carter
their average bandwidth usage
per guest is much lower than the average bandwidth usage per student.
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, etc.
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Yes, or in some cases, no budget cuts but increased requirements/demands for
wireless.
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[http://www.austinc
most of the responses
assume there is enough budget for a top tier solution and this is just about
not spending all of it. Imagine your budget for wireless was cut in half. What
would you do?
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager / IT
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Sherman, TX 7
could only get the budget to replace only ½ of them
with a Cisco/Aruba/Ruckus/etc. Over the next 3 years, he could replace all of
them with Ubiquiti. What choice do you make?
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager / IT
Austin College
900 North Grand Avenue
Sherman, TX 75090
Phone: 903-813-
of view of someone with a small, challenging budget, I could get
the Aruba or Cisco and then have to keep them in service for 10+ years, or go
for the cheaper models and replace them every 3. I realize there are other
issue, but cost is a big driver.
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Man
the visit.
For faculty/staff/students, I see very little reason why they would want to use
the guest network instead of the standard on campus network.
Thomas Carter
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Austin College
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Sherman, TX 75090
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www.austinco
One additional note I forgot in my original – how are issues reported? Can
students report issues to the vendor directly, or must they go through your
help desk first?
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rtment ( outsourcing
= layoffs to many ). I went through this on an almost annual basis in the
corporate world to justify our existence; lots of communication helps.
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Austin College
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ww
What's the density of these? With 700 beds, it doesn't sound like one AP per
room. Just curious about the trade-offs in cost vs coverage compared to more
traditional APs.
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Austin College
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the wall
every year. Would the students be any more careful about APs at outlet or desk
level?
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I forgot to mention we're currently running 5.4. We've had this trouble 3-4
times in the past few weeks, and every time it is a brand new LG phone.
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to
register the device. It seems similar to the old Apple "success.html" test for
internet connectivity, but I haven't been able to determine if that is the
case. Has anyone else seen this issue with new LG phones?
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager / IT
Austin College
9
is
essentially outside our firewall as well – it goes through the firewall, but is
blocked from everything but the internet.
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We use PacketFence as well; while faculty, staff, and student accounts are tied
to AD, guest accounts reside only in packetfence. What is nice for us is
accounts can have limited time frames and limited expirations to help prevent
abuse.
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager
Au
What about a vinyl wrap, similar to this:
https://www.amazon.com/Black-Matte-Vinyl-Release-3MIL-VViViD8/dp/B00L9JAS80
Get it in a wood pattern to match a wood ceiling or a different color to better
blend in. May be how they did the Cisco that Alan posted.
Thomas Carter
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Well you are one Bad-man *ba-dum-tish*
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Austin College
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to fairness to me - spend time and energy (and IP space)
for a subset of our students. Is that fair? I don't know, but it's something to
think about.
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Austin College
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Can you explain why you made the switch?
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controllers prior to installation for
smoother install. This allowed us to do the mounting of APs ourselves; two
people put up 65 APs in about a day and a half and all were working correctly
when they were done.
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Network & Operations Manager
Austin College
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We’re a fairly small campus, but we have almost a 50/50 split:
na – 34%
ng – 24%
a - 22%
g – 20%
so that gives 56% on 5GHz and 44% on 2.4GHz.
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24v converter that sits between this and a standard PoE port.
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Austin College
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environment.
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site when they couldn't access
it from campus and got the "malicious site" warning from our firewall.
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Austin College
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I meant on a label on the device itself.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 11:5
. For example, (I have
not had this come up yet here) in my past life in the corporate world, I was
asked to trace down someone sharing insider information as part of an SEC
investigation into insider trading.
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager
Austin College
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My biggest issue is to avoid being the ISP for the neighborhood around the
school and a place where everyone comes and camps at the library or student
center for free wifi. If it’s as simple as a PSK, that will get out to the
community at large
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager
Au
Yep, but it feels like we're always playing catch up. Especially in spring
after everyone brings back their latest Christmas gift.
BTW, the instructions for the Echo are "contact Amazon support and they will
email you the MAC".
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager
Austin
This is something we struggle with, especially being a small school. Keeping up
with the latest Chromecast/Roku/Amazon Echo, etc devices is near impossible. A
big thank you to product designers who put the MAC on a label on the outside.
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager
Austin Col
issues resolved without
our input – dorm residents see an “unapproved” SSID, find out who has it, and
utilize RAs, etc to get it removed.
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- for example, AP id BSD101 has
failed and needs to be replaced. We haven't had a problem with confusing an AP
with a similarly named switch or PC or printer. YMMV. Maybe it's my aging
brain, but the short names are easier to remember, work with, and communicate.
Thomas Carter
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of no phones in any stairwells on campus; where
buildings drastically unsafe before people had cellphones? Just some of the
things we considered.
Thomas Carter
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Austin College
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for the device and USB
dongles).
Thomas Carter
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Austin College
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ehalf of Thomas Carter" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU on
behalf of tcar...@austincollege.edu> wrote:
>We have a ClickShare - it works well, but was very pricy. It basically is an
>AP (luckily it can do 5GHz so interference wasn’t a problem) that talks to the
for a video framerate.
Thomas Carter
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Austin College
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:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/LV737BL
I will share the results with the list in a week or so.
Thanks,
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institution, we
work with the students to remove the wireless network. It’s no different than
most HP wireless printers that broadcast a wireless network for setup.
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Don’t forget the WiFi SLA discussion – another source of interference outside
of our control.
Thomas Carter
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Austin College
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Sent
I do not have the same confidence in wireless as I do wired. There is no
control over the airwaves like there is over physical cabling, and some
interference cannot be dealt with (like visitor's mobile hotspots).
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or hear about it.
Thomas Carter
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.
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We haven’t had any problems, but we’ve used these:
http://www.l-com.com/surge-protector-outdoor-10-100-1000-base-t-cat6-poe-compatible-lightning-protector-rj45-jacks
with great success. They also have a punch down version as well if you want to
mess with that. We have them mounted outside with
connect back to the central monitoring system via the wired network, but I get
the impression that it’s pretty rock solid reliable.
Thomas Carter
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Austin College
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disappearing. We've used them frequently in situations
where temporary, ad-hoc labs were created with desktops in an area without easy
access to wired connections.
Thanks,
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Austin College
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quickly. With careful set up,
two pair of these could be a long-reach LACP/Etherchannel solution for
redundancy and bandwidth.
Thomas Carter
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Austin College
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.
I have also knocked on doors and asked them to turn it off (when it’s something
that can’t be taken care of by disabling a wired port). That is also very
effective (after they deny having anything and I point to the device in their
room and say “there it is”).
Thomas Carter
Network
Yes, and I've replaced a handful (5-10) of these unreliable RJ45 terminations
with jacks in the past couple of years. For a sense of scale, we have 275 APs
and only about 20% of those have the service cable terminated with a plug
instead of a jack.
Thomas Carter
Network and Operations Manager
this was an
addition, a solid brick wall separates these rooms from other rooms in the
hall, so they get no wireless. It's painful to put in a device for just 2
students.
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Austin College
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and doesn't start increasing
until about 7pm, peaks at 1am, and falls off a cliff to nothing about 1:30am.
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We use a few of these:
http://www.l-com.com/surge-protector-compact-weatherproof-10-100-1000-base-t-cat6-hi-power-lightning-protector-rj45-jacks
on a wireless bridge we have. Thankfully we haven’t had anything test the
protection.
Thomas Carter
Network and Operations Manager
Austin College
903
sprinkled in there somewhere.
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But at the time, HP had the bigger market share compared to 3Com already. This
time Aruba is the much bigger market share. And that was like 2-3 HP CEOs ago.
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we'll have to wait and
see.
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Austin College
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see lots of losses on Aruba's income statements
(although a small income this last quarter).
Thomas Carter
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Austin College
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you asked, you
went out of your way to set up a laptop with the printer directly connected and
acting as a temporary print server (not proud of it, but when a CxO asks, you
jump).
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have no more right
to the SSID than the user does.
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quiet on this issue
as well. Where is Cisco, Aruba, Rukus, et. al who provide us with these tools?
One reading of the FCC notice is that the product they market and sell is
illegal. I feel they should be leading the charge with the FCC for
clarification for us, their customers.
Thomas Carter
We do have that requirement, but the problem is really implementation. Would
you rather:
a) Spend time and manpower running all over campus hunting down all these rogue
devices
b) Use technology to encourage students not to use these rogue devices
Thomas Carter
Network and Operations Manager
But what is that honest talk worth? Two years ago I had this talk with our
vendor (not in financial trouble) who swore they were in the wireless business
for the long haul. 12-18 months later they changed their mind.
Thomas Carter
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Austin College
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device.”
Thomas Carter
Network and Operations Manager
Austin College
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Same here.
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on devices and services
that are built to work behind a home “router” but not an enterprise one)
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IANAL, but it seems the FCC is trying to regulate the “communications.” Sending
a spoofed disassociate may not be jamming, but it is intentionally interrupting
valid communications. They may see making something unusable through whatever
means as equivalent to jamming.
Thomas Carter
Network
But how does that help avoid the initial problem discussed concerning devices
(especially HP printers) causing interference by broadcasting wireless
networks? These printers broadcast these networks straight out of the box and
most students don’t even realize it.
Thomas Carter
Network
their Internet access comes from, they're not
likely to mess with it. Add to that (at least here) there are specific people
to hold responsible for the vandalism rather than anyone walking down the
hallway.
Thomas Carter
Network and Operations Manager
Austin College
903-813-2564
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the hounds.
Thomas Carter
Network and Operations Manager
Austin College
903-813-2564
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of T. Shayne Ghere
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:29 AM
complaints about academics being
affected because a student couldn’t get good wireless signal in their favorite
study spot in the library.
Thomas Carter
Network and Operations Manager
Austin College
903-813-2564
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devices in an attempt to utilize peer
pressure as well. Unfortunately it seems to all be very time consuming to
track down and communcate.
Thomas Carter
Network and Operations Manager
Austin College
903-813-2564
I suspect the clause will still be valid, but we cannot use wireless
countermeasures to enforce them. Telling students to turn them off, disabling
wired ports, student discipline, etc are outside the FCC's jurisdiction it
seems to me.
Thomas Carter
Network and Operations Manager
Austin College
options.
Thomas Carter
Network and Operations Manager
Austin College
903-813-2564
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W
(Network Services)
Sent: Wednesday, October 01
with these and wanted to poll the
list on what your actual process is. How much and how quickly do you involve
organizations outside of IT? Do you have IT punishments (removal of access,
wireless countermeasures, etc) or just general school discipline?
Thomas Carter
Network and Operations Manager
Austin College
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