Re: Default dockapps on distros

On 25.02.2012 05:06, Leonardo Menezes Vaz wrote: I just built wmsystemtray using the source tarball at http://sourceforge.net/projects/wmsystemtray/ This was on a 32-bit Arch Linux system. ./config , make, make install and it's running well. Build works fine here too (Fedora 16 / x86_64). T

Re: Default dockapps on distros

> I just built wmsystemtray using the source tarball at > http://sourceforge.net/projects/wmsystemtray/ > > This was on a 32-bit Arch Linux system.  ./config , make, make install and > it's running well. Build works fine here too (Fedora 16 / x86_64). Regards, Leo -- Leonardo Menezes Vaz ++5

Re: Default dockapps on distros

On Feb 24, 2012, at 9:10 PM, "Kamil Rytarowski" wrote: > For now I'm using Docker, but I will to switch to wmsystemtray. > Currently it's not buildable I just built wmsystemtray using the source tarball at http://sourceforge.net/projects/wmsystemtray/ This was on a 32-bit Arch Linux system.

Re: Default dockapps on distros

On 25.02.2012 00:26, SJS wrote: If the systray were to be somehow *useful*, I might start using it, but I don't see any way that it makes my life any better. I was hoping that one of the advocates could quietly explain HOW it makes *their* life better, as I truly do seek understanding, if not e

Re: Default dockapps on distros

> So? I'm not advocating that WindowMaker be systray-hostile, only > wondering at the folks who want it built-in.  Do these applications > refuse to behave correctly without a systray? Most applications work fine without a system tray, but NetworkManager for example needs it. > I disagree. That'

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On Fri, February 24, 2012, Brad Jorsch wrote: > Every system will have a bourne-compatible shell installed as /bin/sh, > or MANY things will break. Does wmaker.inst have bashisms, or is all > this talk about bash not entirely accurate? There are no bashisms in that script. The code is fairly port

Re: Default dockapps on distros

begin quoting Leonardo Menezes Vaz as of Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 07:16:16PM -0200: > > Can someone explain to me the obsession with having a systray? > > Thanks for asking Stewart. Lots of application in current > distributions use this feature and having support to system tray can > make difference

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

Carlos R. Mafra wrote: > > I have my GNUstep folder since more than 12 years now. Having a script > checking whether it exists or not everytime I start wmaker is not > something I would want to have. The overhead may be negligible, but > I don't want to have one like this. So long as there is an

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

Brad Jorsch wrote: > > Every system will have a bourne-compatible shell installed as /bin/sh, > or MANY things will break. Does wmaker.inst have bashisms, or is all > this talk about bash not entirely accurate? According to my wmaker.inst, it is #!/bin/sh and my /bin/sh is a symlink to dash. IMH

Re: Default dockapps on distros

> Can someone explain to me the obsession with having a systray? Thanks for asking Stewart. Lots of application in current distributions use this feature and having support to system tray can make difference. Trust me. > I honestly don't get why so many people are so enamoured of the idea. It's

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:48:26AM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > On 24.02.2012 10:36, Paul Harris wrote: > > > >Not every system has Perl installed. > >Do you really want to have wmaker depend on Perl ? > > > I can say, that not every system has BASH. Every system will have a bourne-compatible

Re: x11-wm/windowmaker: saving session not possible any more

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 09:58:47AM +, Carlos R. Mafra wrote: > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 1:21:58 -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > > > > Use logical negation instead of comparison to 0 for a value that can > > be numeric, but is null by default. > > This doesn't seem to be right. > > 'restarting' is

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Re: Problem in debian with the last commit about menu

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 20:15:09 +0100, Rodolfo García Peñas wrote: > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Carlos R. Mafra escribió: > > > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 19:47:28 +0100, Rodolfo García Peñas wrote: > > > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Carlos R. Mafra escribió: > > > > > > > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 19:09:39 +0100, Ro

Re: Problem in debian with the last commit about menu

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Carlos R. Mafra escribió: > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 19:47:28 +0100, Rodolfo García Peñas wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Carlos R. Mafra escribió: > > > > > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 19:09:39 +0100, Rodolfo García Peñas wrote: > > > > > > > > Because I created the bug, I will ma

Re: Problem in debian with the last commit about menu

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 19:47:28 +0100, Rodolfo García Peñas wrote: > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Carlos R. Mafra escribió: > > > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 19:09:39 +0100, Rodolfo García Peñas wrote: > > > > > > Because I created the bug, I will make the patch. > > > > Your previous patch is only on #next,

Re: Problem in debian with the last commit about menu

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Carlos R. Mafra escribió: > On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 19:09:39 +0100, Rodolfo García Peñas wrote: > > > > Because I created the bug, I will make the patch. > > Your previous patch is only on #next, I will kick it out and > the bug you created will be gone. Please, don't drop

Re: Problem in debian with the last commit about menu

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 19:09:39 +0100, Rodolfo García Peñas wrote: > > Because I created the bug, I will make the patch. Your previous patch is only on #next, I will kick it out and the bug you created will be gone. -- To unsubscribe, send mail to wmaker-dev-unsubscr...@lists.windowmaker.org.

Re: Default dockapps on distros

begin quoting Leonardo Menezes Vaz as of Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:34:18PM -0200: > > So at least the wmvolman dockapp should be installed by default > > on any distro offering wmaker. And I'd also add wmsystemtray to > > the list. > > I agree with the "dockapp approach", but perhaps the idea of a

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Problem in debian with the last commit about menu

Hi, I create a new bug :-) in the last commit. The problem in debian is that the file WMRootMenu has only one line "menu.hook", then wmaker search this file. Because I move the file to other path, but the path is not included in the search, the menu is the default menu. Currently, the menu pat

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On 24.02.2012 12:31, Brian Tomlinson wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:52 AM, Kamil Rytarowski > wrote: On 24.02.2012 11 :48, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > I disagree. For simple, file system centric tasks, shell scripts > are just the technology of choice. I

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Kamil Rytarowski escribió: > On 24.02.2012 10:19, Carlos R. Mafra wrote: > >On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 10:35:53 +0200, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote: > >>In debian, the /usr/bin/wmaker is an script. This script checks if > >>the user has the GNUstep folder. If the folder exists, then l

Re: [PATCH] WindowMaker: Spanish translation updated

Fuck! forget this patch again. I did something wrong. Cheers. On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Rodolfo García Peñas escribió: > > From 18b3055623f830e998b5222cafd4f3ff6aa32f6c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: =?UTF-8?q?"Rodolfo=20Garc=C3=ADa=20Pe=C3=B1as=20(kix)"?= > Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:18:47 +0100

Re: [PATCH] WindowMaker: Spanish translation updated

>From 18b3055623f830e998b5222cafd4f3ff6aa32f6c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?"Rodolfo=20Garc=C3=ADa=20Pe=C3=B1as=20(kix)"?= Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:18:47 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] WindowMaker: Spanish translation updated The spanish translation is updated. --- po/es.po | 149

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Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On 24.02.2012 10:19, Carlos R. Mafra wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 10:35:53 +0200, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote: In debian, the /usr/bin/wmaker is an script. This script checks if the user has the GNUstep folder. If the folder exists, then launch /usr/share/WindowMaker/wmaker (binary), else, copy th

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:52 AM, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > On 24.02.2012 11:48, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > > > > I disagree. For simple, file system centric tasks, shell scripts > > are just the technology of choice. > > I agree that it's used for simple tasks to execute things, but I disagree >

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On 24.02.2012 11:48, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > I disagree. For simple, file system centric tasks, shell scripts > are just the technology of choice. I agree that it's used for simple tasks to execute things, but I disagree about centric tasks. It's in use o For example it's in use in Udev h

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On 24.02.2012 10:36, Paul Harris wrote: On 24 February 2012 17:28, Kamil Rytarowski > wrote: On 24.02.2012 09:19, Martin Dietze wrote: On Fri, February 24, 2012, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: Is possible to propose a patch rewritting wm scripts (like

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Martin Dietze escribió: > On Fri, February 24, 2012, Carlos R. Mafra wrote: > > > There is no deep reason for doing it. Just leave the good old > > bash script alone and let's not depend on Perl. > > +1 +1 git log util/wmaker.inst.in don't show changes related to maintain

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On Fri, February 24, 2012, Carlos R. Mafra wrote: > There is no deep reason for doing it. Just leave the good old > bash script alone and let's not depend on Perl. +1 M'bert -- --- / http://herbert.the-little-red-haired-girl.org / - =+= Warum geht ein Bratscher nicht �ber

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

Le 24.02.2012 10:36, Paul Harris a écrit : On 24 February 2012 17:28, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: On 24.02.2012 09:19, Martin Dietze wrote: On Fri, February 24, 2012, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: Is possible to propose a patch rewritting wm scripts (like wmaker.inst) from BASH to Perl? Possible? C

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 10:28:53 +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > On 24.02.2012 09:19, Martin Dietze wrote: > >On Fri, February 24, 2012, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > > > >>Is possible to propose a patch rewritting wm scripts (like wmaker.inst) > >>from BASH to Perl? > >Possible? Certainly. > OK, I wil

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:19:49 +, Carlos R. Mafra wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 10:35:53 +0200, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote: In debian, the /usr/bin/wmaker is an script. This script checks if the user has the GNUstep folder. If the folder exists, then launch /usr/share/WindowMaker/wmaker (binary

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On 24 February 2012 17:28, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > On 24.02.2012 09:19, Martin Dietze wrote: > >> On Fri, February 24, 2012, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: >> >> Is possible to propose a patch rewritting wm scripts (like wmaker.inst) >>> from BASH to Perl? >>> >> Possible? Certainly. >> > OK, I will

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On 24.02.2012 09:19, Martin Dietze wrote: On Fri, February 24, 2012, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: Is possible to propose a patch rewritting wm scripts (like wmaker.inst) from BASH to Perl? Possible? Certainly. OK, I will rewrite it and then we can compare. -- To unsubscribe, send mail to wmaker-

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 10:35:53 +0200, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote: > > In debian, the /usr/bin/wmaker is an script. This script checks if > the user has the GNUstep folder. If the folder exists, then launch > /usr/share/WindowMaker/wmaker (binary), else, copy the GNUstep > default files and then lau

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 at 9:19:42 +0100, Martin Dietze wrote: > On Fri, February 24, 2012, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > > > Is possible to propose a patch rewritting wm scripts (like wmaker.inst) > > from BASH to Perl? > > Possible? Certainly. > > > Why? BASH is harder to maintain, more erro prone.

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:19:42 +0100, Martin Dietze wrote: On Fri, February 24, 2012, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: Is possible to propose a patch rewritting wm scripts (like wmaker.inst) from BASH to Perl? Possible? Certainly. Why? BASH is harder to maintain, more erro prone. All the time there i

Re: rewrite scripts to Perl

On Fri, February 24, 2012, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > Is possible to propose a patch rewritting wm scripts (like wmaker.inst) > from BASH to Perl? Possible? Certainly. > Why? BASH is harder to maintain, more erro prone. All the time there is a > need for hacks. I disagree. For simple, file sys