Re: [WSG] different hover for visited links than unvisited?

2005-02-09 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:16:41 +1000, Jason Foss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can the DOM check the 'visitedness' of an a element? no Is there a way to use the DOM to scan the page for visited links and assign them a class? yes, if you change link style using CSS :visited and look for this style in a.cu

Re: [WSG] XHTML Strict alternative to

2005-02-08 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:26:26 -, Patrick Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not sure what the rational for dropping the "start= " from was, and at first glance it seems an odd thing to do. Like others have mention, I can see cases where it would be useful - a results list with 1,000 entry,

Re: [WSG] Browser Checks

2005-02-07 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:57:06 +0800, Bert Doorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Really depends on the audience, the client, etc but I usually draw the line at "5th generation" browsers (MSIE5+, Opera 5+, Netscape 6/7, Firefox, Mozilla, Safari, etc) You can totally ignore Opera 5 and 6. 92% of Opera u

Re: [WSG] XHTML Strict alternative to

2005-02-07 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:07:39 +1100, Michael Cordover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: An ordered list means there is an order, *not* that there is anything particular assocated with that order. So, think about it in terms of set theory, if you will. An unordered list is like a set: {1, 2, 3} which is

Re: [WSG] XHTML Strict alternative to

2005-02-07 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:19:02 +, Ian Fenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Had I been doing it with HTML Transitional or similar, I would have displayed a second page of results as follows: First result Second... ... Do you have any suggestions as to how I could achieve a similar effect with XH

Re: [WSG] Flash, HTML Forms and Firefox

2005-02-03 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:20:08 +1000, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is it possible (without using flash transparency) to display html on top of a Flash Element in Firefox? In Firefox/Win and Opera8/Win you can if Flash has WMODE enabled. On Linux and in older browser versions WMODE is no

Re: [WSG] Unicode-bidi and direction

2005-02-02 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 12:13:15 +1100, Neerav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Some searching revealed these: http://www.htmlref.com/reference/appb/css_unicode-bidi.htm states support is: CSS2 IE 5, 5.5, 6 Nav 6, 7 No Opera support This page has outdated info. Opera 7.5 has full support for CSS21, includ

Re: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe OT?)

2005-02-01 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:24:35 -, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For example in a survey, if you indicate any default answers, you are automatically slanting the results, and if someone doesnt make a choice to a question, they wont get a warning popup, instead they will have a selectio

[WSG] avoid "Skip" link in search results?

2005-02-01 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I don't like putting "Skip to main content" or "Skip to navigation" link, because they can be seen in search results. I thought about replacing it with ">>>" or something that won't contain keywords and won't go in the way in search results, but that probably is a killer for screen readers. Do y

Re: [WSG] Standards?

2005-02-01 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:44:21 -, designer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Reduce Bandwidth Costs Not relevant - small site, with folk increasingly being on a high speed line. Here in UK (where it's called Broadband) the user pays a standard fee, no matter how much/how long he/she uses it. (that

Re: [WSG] Search Engines and CSS

2005-01-27 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:14:04 +1100, Ryan Sabir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone have a definitive answer on whether search engines take any notice of CSS? I don't think so. Someone could develop their page full of 's with dodgy keywords, and simply not display the content of those H1's. We ar

Re: [WSG] Express Youself

2005-01-27 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:01:20 -0800, Chris Kennon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: top:expression(body.scrollTop + 4 + "px"); I'm unfamiliar with CSS expressions. Can someone point me to a source that has been used by list members. Also doesn't this contradict the effort of separation of code and co

Re: [WSG] Any ASP.Net standards people here?

2005-01-27 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:06:12 -, Peter Goddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've recently had a task to write stylesheet for ASP.Net page and I was really shocked how BAD that code is. Coder that wrote that didn't have any idea of web standards and he said that it's generally impossible to

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.0 Strict and PHP

2005-01-26 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:47:47 +, David R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Bo$$ wrote: What about frames? Use ID too? #1: Don't use frames untill XFrames comes out and gets supported #2: You don't need to give any element an ID attribute unless you're doing either a runat="server" or doing ECMA/D

Re: [WSG] Right aligned lists...

2005-01-25 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I searched the archives and could not find an answer to my question... Is it possible to generate right-aligned lists with CSS and have the bullet on the right instead of the left? Not really. You can easily simulate this effect using Generated Content and maybe CSS21 counters for ordered lists.

Re: [WSG] Heading without line break

2005-01-25 Thread Kornel Lesinski
How would I tell a stylesheet to not put a line break at the end of an Hx tag? e.g. My heading and some more text. I want the words "and some more text." to appear on the same line. How would I do this? display: run-in; does exactly what you're looking for (you could e-mail PPK, who was wandering

Re: [WSG] content-language[is it search op?]

2005-01-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:10:52 -0800, Chris Kennon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Would this fall under search engine optimization? If so where could I find more on the subject? http://diveintoaccessibility.org/day_7_identifying_your_language.html -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ***

Re: [WSG] content-language

2005-01-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:08:47 +, john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Personally I think that HTML lang (or xml:lang) attributes are more appropriate (and precise). Could you please elaborate more on this? I'm just wondering what I should do for this site, since there are multiple languages. Shou

Re: [WSG] content-language

2005-01-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:38:11 -0500, Anthony Timberlake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am pretty sure it is for if you have a second language pack on your computer, the browser will load that before loading your site (allowing the user to see the page in their foreign tongue). I don't understand wh

Re: [WSG] Question about use of flash in a pure css page

2005-01-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:03:29 +0100, Sven-Eric Buschgens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The problem that has occured for the menu we are using a flashbased menu. Is removing flash menu altogether an option? It seems that you can do it with simple :hover and animgif or it might be possible to get sim

Re: [WSG] content-language

2005-01-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:06:00 +, john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can somebody please explain what the "content-language" meta tag is useful for? It's not exactly meta tag. It's HTTP header. See: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3282.html Is it required for validity? No. I have a site that is being

Re: [WSG] Future XHTML Proposals?

2005-01-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Where the "Simple" edition is a vastly simplified version where there's less emphasis on content/presentation separation, such as greater support for attribute styles and perhaps a element? Where each has a "Context Order" informing screen-readers in what order to read the content? No, t

Re: [WSG] Re: Advantage of word-wrapping?

2005-01-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
BUT - for development purposes wrapping is far more readable. Same way that code indenting is a nice thing to do but serves no practical purpose. Of course, if you're very concerned about page size (kb wise) the wrapping, indenting etc are just pointless wastes of space. Most of my pages are gene

Re: [WSG] Re: Advantage of word-wrapping?

2005-01-23 Thread Kornel Lesinski
In both cases, UAs will render the content exactly the same... I was wondering if there were any advantages to the former... I heard something about some obscure UAs ignoring content beyond the 80th Column or something myth. -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ***

Re: [WSG] double space after period

2005-01-23 Thread Kornel Lesinski
How about using en/em-space instead of regular space? http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars/spaces.html -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for

Re: [WSG] The Content Generation[2nd Post]

2005-01-21 Thread Kornel Lesinski
To keep the user informed of the number of pages remaining out of n http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/CR-css3-page-20040225/#pg-based-extensions "A UA MUST act as if there was a counter with the name of 'pages' and its initial value was set to the total number of pages." AFAIK currently no browser supports

Re: [WSG] IE 6 will not pick up background image

2005-01-21 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Okay I have a page (http://www.m5i.com/m5hr/new/test.php), when I cross-browser check IE will not pick up the background image. Is this a syntax error, do you have to declare the background object a couple different ways ? about syntax errors ask here: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?

Re: [WSG] .php extension

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:48:49 -0330, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am on a hosted site, where would I find that file? Other .php pages display just not this one. Then you have some fatal error on your page, but server has disabled error display. See it using such php file: include('your_fata

Re: [WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
It is expected, but does it belong to HTML? means "header" and is expected to look like a header, even if it is small. What makes h1 look like a header if not for a significantly larger size than everything else? Alignment? Font style? Color? Background? Decoration? Letter spacing? People used to

Re: [WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I thought the whole point behind (x)HTML strict was separation of content and presentation. Keeping "align" attributes does not seem to fit in. I think I've found the reason why these properties are kept. There is a fundamental incompatibility of HTML columns model and CSS inheritance: http://l

Re: [WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
That wasn't my point. The expected result is readily achievable with no CSS at all. The few cell alignments that would deviate from the norm in any given table would require no significant difference in file size from those that require CSS classes for the same purpose, and the stylesheet itself w

Re: [WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Because people expect data cells to be centered under column headings and row headings to be left aligned more often than not? This can be done with CSS. If the alignment is different, will it change the meaning of data? I think not. It's presentational. -- regards, Kornel Lesiński *

Re: [WSG] meta tag standards

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Is there anything wrong with closing meta tags like so: In XML probably not, but tag-soup browsers/robots may try to "fix" your code and assume that is ment to be or something like that. My XSLT knowledge is tiny, but I think that it is quite possible to make tag, check XSLT FAQ:

Re: [WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Kornel - you might like to double-check your statement that "It is not valid in XHTML/1.1 or any Strict [X]HTML version." http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/index/attributes.html indicates that the "align" attribute it is *NOT* deprecated for COL, COLGROUP, TBODY, TD, TFOOT, TH, THEAD and TR.

Re: [WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
and got a lot of very unreliable information and not found what I'm looking for. Try the source: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ XHTML is based on HTML4, so this also applies (note the Deprecated columns!): http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/index/elements.html http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/index/

Re: [WSG] Conditional comments

2005-01-19 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Does this really work on IE? Can I really use transparency in my PNG-24 and have IE display it? Or is there some hidden catch? There are several catches. http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/notes/#PNG -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] User Preference Script

2005-01-19 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I've been looking for a different solution, and I found one - use multiple classes on : Although, if I understand you correctly, that class attribute will be written out server side on request, based on user choices No, it may be written on client-side using DOM. I know that classnames should

Re: [WSG] User Preference Script

2005-01-19 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Personally, I don't see the point in JavaScript-powered style switchers when Server-Side works better... Client-side switcher has immediate effect, so it's easier to choose style IMHO. Besides that, there is no real difference. Current browsers' built-in style switcher implementations are "fo

Re: [WSG] Placing a link text on top of BG image

2005-01-19 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Further to Carmelyne's post I am also having trouble placing link text over the top of background graphics.Surely there must be a way of using CSS to position the text? Yes, there is a simple way: use padding. See http://browsehappy.pl (note: .pl) - heading gfx is just and text is positioned using

Re: [WSG] empty named anchors

2005-01-19 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Empty link elements are not good (as Patrick pointed out)but what about named anchors (destination anchors)? They are obsolete. Refer to any id instead. Is there any reason why they should not be empty? I wouldn't be surprised if it was because of a bug in Netscape4. -- regards, Kornel Lesiński *

Re: [WSG] User Preference Script

2005-01-19 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:34:58 +1000, Tony Aslett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would love some feedback on a User Preference Script http://www.csscreator.com/generator/userpref.php Because Opera is not able to modify stylesheet rules, I've been looking for a different solution, and I found one -

Re: [WSG] Required by Depreciated attributes

2005-01-18 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Thing is, I need the "ol li ol" element to start at a specified number. The HTML4.01 spec says I can use the start="" attribute, but that its depreciated... So what replaces the start="" attribute in XHTML1.1? I couldn't see anything in CSS about it. Ignore XHTML/1.1. Removal of start is a m

Re: [WSG] List item spacing problem

2005-01-18 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:49:54 +0400, Marwan Farha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In IE6 the spacing between the subNav list items is perfect but in Firefox they become all squashed up against each other, and i can't seem to find the problem. I'd say that in Firefox list is as it should be, and IE6

Re: [WSG] A question of semantics

2005-01-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
What about s to seperate the form elements when CSS isn't present? a slippery slope, in my opinion...starting to add what is, in this case, visual markup to compensate for lack of CSS... i usually only worry about accessibility in cases where CSS is not available, but i do take your point on

Re: [WSG] Behaviors

2005-01-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
can someone provide any piece of information about behaviors in CSS They are IE-only. That's all I care to know. Some useful implementations: http://www.xs4all.nl/~peterned/csshover.html http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/ Microsoft has some docs on the subject: http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author

Re: [WSG] Two CSS Question

2005-01-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Well, GMail works on the various browsers (ok, I havent tested *all* of them), so I can report it works there too :) Well, it doesn't work in Opera 7.5x. Opera Software implemented XMLHttpRequest and ActiveX objects emulation (only js side, no real controls), specially for GMail. Opera 8 beta works

Re: [WSG] Zero margin - just sharing

2005-01-14 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I know a lot of people use this: * { margin:0; padding:0; } issue I found with this, was that within dropdowns the "downarrow" GUI, covers some of the text on the right. That's why I never reset margins/padding for all elements, and just set them (both!) where it matters (body/h1/ul/li). B

Re: [WSG] Can I use a table in a form?

2005-01-13 Thread Kornel Lesinski
The point is that it is not layout table. Of course it's a layout table. You're using a table so you can lay out your labels next to your inputs all nice and neat. No, it is what you suggest. Original post is not about that. Have you read it? -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ***

Re: [WSG] Can I use a table in a form?

2005-01-13 Thread Kornel Lesinski
If you want to use tables to lay out your forms (or anything else for that matter) then go for it. The point is that it is not layout table. It has semantic value. It's a kind of table that can have summary, caption, headers and contains repeating sets of data. hairs and getting semantic, isn't

Re: [WSG] Can I use a table in a form?

2005-01-13 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:01:38 +, Andy Budd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think that inputs in a table are ok. This is tabular data, although not output, but input, but the structure certainly is tabular. To read a table user needs to understand its structure (associate content with headings, navi

Re: [WSG] London Web Standards Conference

2005-01-11 Thread Kornel Lesinski
You can find out more, help to support and register on the shiny new website: http://www.atmedia2005.co.uk Looks interesting, but Â345 registration fee is too much for me. -- regards, Kornel LesiÅski ** The discussion list for http://webstandards

Re: [WSG] list spacing

2005-01-10 Thread Kornel Lesinski
You can only set the padding and margin properties if the LI element is block or inline-block. Not inline, I'm afraid. (AFAIK!) or you can set line-height on inline li element. -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ** The discussion list for http://webs

Re: [WSG] problem with gradient and background in IE/Win

2005-01-08 Thread Kornel Lesinski
in the Fox, the transition between the gradient and the background-color is seamless while in IE/Win (5/5.5/6) the colors suddenly don't match anymore. please disregard the slightly mangled layout. any ideas? Use GIF if you need colors to match exactly. Sad, but true. http://www.hut.fi/u/hsi

Re: [WSG] G* addressing standards

2005-01-07 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Which standard exactly prohibits use of px as font-size unit? Exactly this one: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-CSS-TECHS/#units and soon this one: http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-WCAG20-CSS-TECHS-20040730/ -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ** The discussion

Re: [WSG] Conditional comments

2005-01-06 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:39:46 -0500, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would do something along the line of the below perhaps, recently did, but am wondering if it is a good idea?: I'd use: -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] Conditional comments

2005-01-06 Thread Kornel Lesinski
What I wondering is, could a comment be used to feed a GIF variant of a logo to IE to replace a PNG (with alpha) that IE doesn't support? Don't double your code. Using apache mod_rewrite and PHP you can make all PNG 'files' to actually contain GIF, if requested by explorer. See: http://osiolki.ne

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-06 Thread Kornel Lesinski
How *Microsoft* would benefit from supporting XHTML and CSS2? To play the counter act here... How does microsoft benefit by offering IE at all? They have control over the browser market and the Web. Because IE is everywhere, developers can base applications on it, and make apps tied to Microsoft s

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-06 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Microsoft has been hyping about web-applications more than you'd imagine, the MSDN Library is full of articles on the subject. 3 of the included posters in the 2003 edition are about web-applications. They don't think about W3C-standards based applications. They are just using a buzzrword to p

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:17:48 +1100, Mariusz Stankiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They should just ship firefox with longthorn and forget about IE7 No, thats crazy talk! ...but they could buy out Opera Software... ;) -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ***

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
responsibility only, which is to maximize return on investment. He has done this incredibly well. I'm deeply worried that Microsoft is just going to make tabbed browsing add-on, to put some "fire" out, and keep it's 12-year old engine. From their point of view, following web standards is: * exp

Re: [WSG] Slightly more OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I just went to the main page for Internet explorer to look for some information and while the images were loading, I noticed the alt attribute of one image was "Need alt text" Maybe that's a cry for help of some poor developer trapped in Redmond? ;) ** QUESTION ** In what condition is Explore

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I was wondering if any of you have any specific questions, queries, or comments regarding the development of IE, and more specifically, IE7 which may, or may not, come with Longhorn (before... if we're lucky) Does Microsoft feel resposibility for the web? Do they realize how much web traffic

Re: [WSG] Interesting Doctype: anyone seen something like that before?

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Hehe, that's a good one :) OK, they don't want to follow standards, that's okay with me, but blaiming Dreamweaver for that... hey, isn't this the program that many Web Standards activists use? Dreamweaver is just a tool, it does not guarantee good code. This page is non-standard and messy. It has

Re: [WSG] being framed!

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:29:22 -, designer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Frameborder 0 still leaves the space between the frames, so is effectively useless. Oh, indeed. It was a long time since I last used frames :) oveflown elements, server side includes or "webmaster-side" preprocessing are IM

Re: [WSG] being framed!

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Hard as it is to accept, borderless framesets just won't validate. http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/present/frames.html#h-16.2.2 There is frameborder attribute! Frames have several serious problems, but none of them is validation. -- regards, Kornel Lesiński

[WSG] comment to Creative Commons RDF in comment

2005-01-04 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Creative Commons gives a bit of XML to paste into your page ...but XML is inside HTML comment. Don't you think it's rather pointless? XML parsers won't pick it up, so if you want to get license info, you have to threat whole file like a tag soup anyway. Do you know tools that read this rdf license?

Re: [WSG] Sorry looking Guestbook :o(

2005-01-04 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 05:35:21 -0500, Bennie Shepherd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Would any of you have and idea as to why my guestbook is so narrow and screwed up in IE 6 and Opera? It's using the same html and css as the rest of the site. Looks fine in FF 1. http://bennieshepherd.com/orangegu

Re: [WSG] Funky tags or "XHTML2 Transistional"

2005-01-01 Thread Kornel Lesinski
First of all, current browsers don't really use the Document Type Definitions provided by the W3C website, they just look for the correct Document Type Declarations. So, they probably will recognise your DT Declaration as another junk and will probably fall back to the quirksmode (I wouldn't cer

[WSG] Funky tags or "XHTML2 Transistional"

2004-12-31 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I'm thinking about creating my own doctype/DTD and adding some new tags. Instead of having or I'd like to simpy have tag. and have no semantic meaning, and in practice would have no meaning either, but there are some advantages: - less to write - validator can check these against dtd - ge

Re: [WSG] Semantic markup for object dimensions/units

2004-12-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Any thoughts on semantic markup for object dimensions? For example works of art; height x width x depth 400mm x 800mm x 200mm I can't think of anything better than using unicode 'x' for multiplication. [X]HTML doesn't have any markup for dimensions. -- regards, Kornel Lesiński *

Re: [WSG] Re: stylesheet switching in IE6

2004-12-29 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:36:26 +, Patrick H. Lauke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Erwin Heiser wrote: Ijust cracked it, IE was chocking on the lang="en" statement inside (in the XHTML code) in combination with this statement "div:lang(en)" in the style sheet. I remembered that IE doesn't supppo

Re: [WSG] XSLT on client-side (was: making money out of web standards)

2004-12-29 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Won't attempt at going any further as I don't think I'm talking about web standards at any length. XML and XSLT are W3C standards :) If you don't have server-side technologies available, then you may transform your XML using (offline) shell script and upload XHTML to server. -- regards, Kornel Le

Re: [WSG] XSLT on client-side (was: making money out of web standards)

2004-12-29 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:48:05 +0800, Wong Chin Shin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry, don't really understand what you mean by your statement below. The XSL document may not be readable but the XML can be set to be as readable and descriptive as we want it to? XML has no semantics. Your custom ma

Re: [WSG] making money out of web standards

2004-12-29 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Separating content and layout made perfect sense to me as a programmer. XML/XSLT is good 'cos it allows me to modularize sections of a site without having to resort to server-side technologies. ...except server-side XSLT transformation, right? Because XSLT on client side is non-semantic, incompa

Re: [WSG] page not validating as xhtml 1.0 strict - explanation?

2004-12-29 Thread Kornel Lesinski
i know that one must put block elements inside inline elements with xhtml 1.0 strict, but this isn't the case here? paragraphs are block elements, as are s. You got this other way round. It's: inline content inside block. can go inside , but in cannot. must have inline contents. Use , even

Re: [WSG] Browser Check - such inconsistencies!

2004-12-28 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Konqueror 3.0.5 Wow, amazing it works. CSS in Konq 3.0 is sooo bug ridden. "Safaried" Konq 3.3 behaves much better. IE4 - PC Ignore it. IE4 is suicidcal when it comes to CSS. All Versions of Opera If in Opera 6, you can ignore it. But if it breaks in latest Opera you have a problem. Opera 7.5 h

Re: [WSG] learning CSS

2004-12-27 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I am learning CSS tricks (I know the star hack) but where can I find out about Vicki's 'conditional comments' and Kornel's *>{} ?? Where is this stuff documented? http://positioniseverything.net/explorer.html is a great resource for IE bugs and hacks. Conditional Comments: http://www.quirksmode.

Re: [WSG] Why style to IE?

2004-12-27 Thread Kornel Lesinski
The only bug/quirk with IE that I've come across that needed my attention was the big one: box model. I prefer to use the "box in a box" sort of workaround This needs excessive divs and without IE support for '>' selector requires them additionally messed with lots of id/classes. Why serve any

Re: [WSG] Why style to IE?

2004-12-27 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I think it is important *not to* build&test in IE first. You have to avoid building your code on top of some IE bug/quirk. It is much less work to force IE to behave well, than making all other browsers misbehave like IE. For that matter I build and test pages for Firefox and Opera7 first (having I

Re: [WSG] Why style to IE?

2004-12-27 Thread Kornel Lesinski
If you make commercial sites you must live with the fact that it is mainly for IE. Loudest "f. you" I can tell to IE is Firebar: http://hpstudios.homeip.net/Firebar.html Usually I don't have to trash the code with conditional comments. * html {} and *> {} css hacks are enough. I try to make page

Re: [WSG] opera float question

2004-12-22 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Opera7 doesn't allow fieldsets to float. Bug. -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help

Re: [WSG] W3C what are they doing ?

2004-12-22 Thread Kornel Lesinski
- I doubt XHTML 2/DOM 3 will hit the main stream for a number of years (at least 5). So I wouldn't start worrying about it now. - I don't think XHTML 2/DOM 3 have be designed with developers in mind. These guys are not thinking about our immediate needs - they are thinking about the direction of t

Re: [WSG] Please explain use of html>#____

2004-12-21 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Kornel Lesinski wrote: So, in this case it's CSS hack. AFAIK IE5/win ignores > and + selectors and iterprets it as "html #wrap". Still trying to find out which browsers mistakenly apply this. IE5/5.5/6 seem to rightly ignore the rule. The closest I came was the star-7 hack ht

Re: [WSG] Please explain use of html>#____

2004-12-21 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:31:27 +0930, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: is a child selector: http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/CR-CSS21-20040225/selector.html#child-selectors html>#wrap means element with id=wrap inside html (but not inside other element inside html). If its not (or ) then it doesn't match any

Re: [WSG] Hover psuedo-class issues

2004-12-21 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Does anyone know of any existing (and much simpler) JavaScript libraries that enable :hover, :focus, and :active for non anchor tags for IE? http://www.xs4all.nl/~peterned/csshover.html -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ** The discussion list for htt

Re: [WSG] neat code in A9 search

2004-12-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
BOM is a Unicode standard. Without BOM, applications have to waste resources trying to figure character encoding. Here are some FAQs about BOM: http://www.unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#22 I know that. FAQ more or less confirms what I've said - BOM in UTF-8 is "Microsoft conventions for .txt f

Re: [WSG] neat code in A9 search

2004-12-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:04:48 +0100, JohnyB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How do I remove this BOM marker once it's inserted? Damn it, it causes all my XSL transformations on Java to fail! I use PSPad (www.pspad.com), it doest it transparently (if set in preferences). alternatively you can open fil

Re: [WSG] neat code in A9 search

2004-12-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
there appears some funny characters. ÃÂÂ This is another Microsoft "invention" - BOM marker used to recognize UTF-8 files. ByteOrderMarker makes no sense in UTF-8. Notepad and other MS-tools silently insert it in all UTF-8 files, making them invalid. This breaks HTML validation, causes trash

Re: [WSG] Semantic Mark-Up for Product Catalog

2004-12-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
And please, please, if using a table remember to include row and column scope. What is the default scope? -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm fo

Re: [WSG] Semantic Mark-Up for Product Catalog

2004-12-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:46:20 -0500, Michael Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chris Kennon wrote: In the following name/value listing what would be the most semantic mark-up. Product Name: Product Number: Product Description: Product Cost: I'd probably use a definition list: My Produ

Re: [WSG] accessible image form buttons

2004-12-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Hmmm... I have tried to hide the border of an input field in Opera, but it flatly refused: input{border:0;} This is Opera 7.23 oh, that bug. Fixed in 7.50 or 7.60... For Opera 7.2 use: input {border: 0 solid;} -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ** The di

Re: [WSG] accessible image form buttons

2004-12-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
The problem is the input style doesn't work in all browsers. In particular Opera and some of the Mac browsers will ignore them, if I remember correctly. Current version of Opera does excellent job with styling input elements. Opera even lets you change border on checkbox elements. I haven't seen

Re: [WSG] accessible image form buttons

2004-12-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
SOLUTION 1: Search Problem: Doesn't work in older browsers (e.g. NN4). Eh, another good solution spoiled by this zombie. Search Forget hackish href="javascript:". Use onclick instead. To make this less evil you could put link inside . -- regards, Kornel Lesiński ***

Re: [WSG] background loading issue

2004-12-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:19:48 -0600, Charles Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chris Kennon wrote: Any suggestions on bringing the file size down? I've tried interlacing the .gif the current size is the lowest without image degradation. Just for comparison, I took the image into PaintShopPro (

Re: [WSG] noscript in xhtml1.0 strict

2004-12-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:37:49 +0100, Nick Verstappen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is the noscript tag not allowed anymore in XHTML 1.0 Strict? I'm trying to use it, but it does not validate. If it IS allowed, what markup should I use to make it validate? Many thanks! Ofcourse it is allowed. XHT

Re: [WSG] Site review plz

2004-12-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
The url: http://www.azapi.com/ Reviewing the home page only. Firefox 1.0 on Win2K, dial-up connection. The page took a long time to load. Looks like one of those "if you don't have cable or ADSL we don't want your business" type of sites. I suggest converting top and bottom backgrounds to JPEG

Re: [WSG] Standards & Macromedia Contribute

2004-12-15 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Are you sure? Some time ago there was a deal between Macromedia and Opera: http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2002/07/20020702.dml (oh, and Apple: http://www.macminute.com/2003/09/30/opera) Not Apple. Adobe. oops. It was supposed to be "and Adobe". Test it: body {content: "It's Opera";} You wh

Re: [WSG] Standards & Macromedia Contribute

2004-12-15 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On the Mac, Contribute uses the same (system-level) rendering engine as Safari, which means you should not get any nasty surprises with the layout. Are you sure? Some time ago there was a deal between Macromedia and Opera: http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2002/07/20020702.dml (oh, and Appl

Re: [WSG] Video Files

2004-12-14 Thread Kornel Lesinski
For 30mb movies that is not a good idea. Browser will try to save whole file before sending it to application. This eliminates streaming. Not quite correct. When the QuickTime Movie is authored correctly, QuickTime plays the Video while it still downloads. You'd have to make few kb "dummy" quicktim

Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (14/12/04)

2004-12-13 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:48:40 +1100, russ - maxdesign <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://news.com.com/Mozillaaimsformobilebrowsermarket/2100-1032_3-5483683.html I'd like to note that this news is disinformative. You could think that there isn't any browser that reformats pages, zooms images and

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