Re: [WSG] css variables

2005-09-28 Thread Steve Clason
On 9/28/2005 2:33 PM Drake, Ted C. wrote: I'm not sure If I asked the question right. I'm not looking to do a search and replace. I'm hoping to set a variable in the CSS, such as This is the color of all selected links in the navigation. Then, the css would just set that variable. All of the var

RE: [WSG] css variables

2005-09-28 Thread Drake, Ted C.
ld refer to the variable instead of the actual hexdec number. How would the regular expression do that? Thanks Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terrence Wood Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:07 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Su

Re: [WSG] css variables

2005-09-28 Thread Terrence Wood
Drake, Ted C. said: > There was a recent spat of posts about using variables in CSS.[snip] > Ouch, my 4 rule css file now grows to 54,056 lines of rules re-writing > the #f60 code. Wouldn't it be lovely if I just had > {selectedlink} : #ffcfcf ? There's no point using a slegehammer to drive in a

[WSG] css variables

2005-09-28 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi everyone    There was a recent spat of posts about using variables in CSS. I looked at them and thought… I need to look at these later.   Well, now I’m working on a very complicated CSS file and would like to replace #f60 in several million places with {selectedlink}. It’s not severa

Re: [WSG] CSS validator updated?

2005-09-26 Thread Christian Montoya
Those warnings don't mean that there is anything wrong with the site, especially the warnings about background colors. If a site looks fine, then those warnings can be ignored. I think in future updates those warnings will be taken out. On 9/26/05, Bert Doorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has the CSS

Re: [WSG] CSS validator updated?

2005-09-26 Thread Kenny Graham
The CSS validator has a few new bugs mentioned recently on here. It's throwing errors where it shouldn't be, like on some integers that don't have ".0" after them. Hopefully it'll get fixed soon. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgr

[WSG] CSS validator updated?

2005-09-26 Thread Bert Doorn
Has the CSS validator (the W3C one) just become a whole lot more pedantic? Sites that previously came out with a clean slate now throw up lots of warnings. I mean.. You'd expect sites made by people in the Features section of the WSG site to be perfect. I checked a few of them at random.

[WSG] CSS selector builder

2005-09-25 Thread tee
Got this from a friend. it comes in handy as I am taking a CSS 2.1 class right now and the first and second week assignments are selectors. http://disruptive-innovations.com/zoo/selectorBuilder/ selectorBuilder.xul It can only open in Firefox by the way. tee **

Re: [WSG] CSS Validator Bug

2005-09-22 Thread Andy Budd
Might be worth reporting this to the validator people I did that straight off, but it turns out its already a known bug. Yours Andy Budd http://www.andybudd.com/ 01273 241355 07880 636677 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup

Re: [WSG] CSS Validator Bug

2005-09-22 Thread John Allsopp
Andy, It would seem that the CSS validator has a bug in its handling of values. I've been doing a lot of checking with the validator of late (results next week at WE05) The last few days or so they clearly made some big changes to the validator, and there appear to be some significant

[WSG] CSS Validator Bug

2005-09-22 Thread Andy Budd
It would seem that the CSS validator has a bug in its handling of values. The CSS spec says that: A can either be an , or it can be zero or more digits followed by a dot (.) followed by one or more digits. So 1 and 1.0 are both valid numbers. However if you run the following code throug

[WSG] CSS Box

2005-09-15 Thread Studentul
Hello, I am trying to build a small box in CSS, but I am having a little problem. Please look at: http://www.freewebs.com/mofotest/ My problem is to align vertical "Monitor LCD AG Neovo F417B 17". The text in the grey box may have 2 ore more line... so I can't use margin. Kindest Regards,

Re: [WSG] CSS Mobile Buttons

2005-09-07 Thread Andrew Krespanis
On 9/8/05, russ - maxdesign <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dunno about that but I know of two silly alternatives: > > A remote control device done in CSS: > http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/remote/remote-new.htm > > An IPod emulator: > http://www.podsites.com/emulator-result.cfm ...and if

Re: [WSG] CSS Mobile Buttons

2005-09-07 Thread russ - maxdesign
Dunno about that but I know of two silly alternatives: A remote control device done in CSS: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/remote/remote-new.htm An IPod emulator: http://www.podsites.com/emulator-result.cfm :) Russ > Does anyone remember on this list an example someone put together o

[WSG] CSS Mobile Buttons

2005-09-07 Thread Richard Czeiger
Does anyone remember on this list an example someone put together of an XHTML/CSS page feature a picture of a mobile phone where you could 'click' on the buttons (which were positioned via CSS)? Tried looking in the archive, but can't find it. Cheers :o) Richard **

Re: [WSG] CSS 3 color module and deprecation of "system" colors

2005-09-06 Thread Robin Berjon
Alan Trick wrote: Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Apologies for cross posting, but: could anybody shed some light as to why system colors have been deprecated in the CSS 3 color module? This is a bit OT, and correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't system colors be a big security threat as far a phishing

Re: [WSG] CSS 3 color module and deprecation of "system" colors

2005-09-06 Thread Alan Trick
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: > Apologies for cross posting, but: could anybody shed some light as to > why system colors have been deprecated in the CSS 3 color module? This is a bit OT, and correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't system colors be a big security threat as far a phishing and spoofing, and

Re: [WSG] CSS 3 color module and deprecation of "system" colors

2005-09-05 Thread Robin Berjon
Rowan Lewis wrote: Sure no browsers support the appearance property, or most of CSS3 for that matter, but thats fine as its not even complete yet. There really is no point in keeping the system colours if when CSS3 is ready all browsers will support the appearance property. The appearance pro

Re: [WSG] CSS 3 color module and deprecation of "system" colors

2005-09-04 Thread Rowan Lewis
So they are wrong?Sure no browsers support the appearance property, or most of CSS3 for that matter, but thats fine as its not even complete yet. There really is no point in keeping the system colours if when CSS3 is ready all browsers will support the appearance property. On 9/4/05, Robin Berjon <

Re: [WSG] CSS 3 color module and deprecation of "system" colors

2005-09-03 Thread Robin Berjon
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Apologies for cross posting, but: could anybody shed some light as to why system colors have been deprecated in the CSS 3 color module? The CSS WG believes erroneously that they can be replaced by the new appearance property (which is not at all widely supported, to say

[WSG] CSS 3 color module and deprecation of "system" colors

2005-09-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Apologies for cross posting, but: could anybody shed some light as to why system colors have been deprecated in the CSS 3 color module? http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/CR-css3-color-20030514/#css-system In my recent testing on Windows browsers, I found them to be fairly well supported and would posi

RE: [WSG] css buttons only hot over text in ie

2005-09-03 Thread kvnmcwebn
'That declaration *resets* the first one and you end up with anchors that are block elements, but *not* floats. That would be fine with most of the browsers, but feeding IE with a height declaration makes it *expand* the anchors full width (unless they are "floats").' Hello, that explans why the

Re: [WSG] css buttons only hot over text in ie

2005-09-02 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Thierry Koblentz wrote: > I guess you meant *without* the width:auto... so I think I have good > news for you ;) > Try "display:inline-block" instead of "width:auto" Or, better, remove the *extra* float declaration you have for these anchors ;-( That declaration *resets* the first one and you end

Re: [WSG] css buttons only hot over text in ie

2005-09-02 Thread Thierry Koblentz
kvnmcwebn wrote: > hello, > that did the trick > it would be nice if it worked with the width: auto; but its a lot > better now if the whole buttons hot. I guess you meant *without* the width:auto... so I think I have good news for you ;) Try "display:inline-block" instead of "width:auto" HTH, Th

RE: [WSG] css buttons only hot over text in ie

2005-08-31 Thread kvnmcwebn
22:25 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] css buttons only hot over text in ie kvnmcwebn wrote: > Hello Thierry, > Thanks for the solution but maybe theres something in the struture of > my html that dosnt work with that method. Check it if you have a > minute. Both pages

Re: [WSG] css buttons only hot over text in ie

2005-08-31 Thread Thierry Koblentz
kvnmcwebn wrote: > Hello Thierry, > Thanks for the solution but maybe theres something in the struture of > my html that dosnt work with that method. Check it if you have a > minute. Both pages > work fine in firefox. > > http://www.mcmonagle.biz/nav2.htm > > It blows out the nav bar, fixes the h

RE: [WSG] css buttons only hot over text in ie

2005-08-31 Thread kvnmcwebn
its supposed to look http://www.mcmonagle.biz/nav.htm also-thanks for the response terrance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thierry Koblentz Sent: 31 August 2005 20:18 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] css buttons only hot

Re: [WSG] css buttons only hot over text in ie

2005-08-31 Thread Sam Brown
--- kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whats the best way to make the bellow css buttons > hot for the entire height > in ie? Right now there just hot over the text. I > tried adding a fixed pixel > height to the a: rule but that didnt work so well. > I've seen this solution online somewhere be

Re: [WSG] css buttons only hot over text in ie

2005-08-31 Thread Terrence Wood
Not sure what you mean. The CSS works as expected (horizontal navbar) with the follwing HTML: item item item item item kind regards Terrence Wood. > Whats the best way to make the bellow css buttons hot for the entire > height in ie? ** The

Re: [WSG] css buttons only hot over text in ie

2005-08-31 Thread Thierry Koblentz
kvnmcwebn wrote: > Hello, > > Whats the best way to make the bellow css buttons hot for the entire > height in ie? Right now there just hot over the text. I tried adding > a fixed pixel height to the a: rule but that didnt work so well. > I've seen this solution online somewhere before but im on a

[WSG] css buttons only hot over text in ie

2005-08-31 Thread kvnmcwebn
Hello, Whats the best way to make the bellow css buttons hot for the entire height in ie? Right now there just hot over the text. I tried adding a fixed pixel height to the a: rule but that didnt work so well. I've seen this solution online somewhere before but im on a tight deadline so i thought

Re: [WSG] css ads

2005-08-19 Thread Jorge Laranjo
Em 19/ago/2005, às 12:00, Jad Madi escreveu: hi, i'm trying to the logo over the main-nav any suggestions? http://easyhttp.com/css/css-ads.html Hi there Jad. Just make it all a image. or split that banner in two in the vertical Just see what i did here http://estacaoshopping.com.pt/ Just lo

[WSG] css ads

2005-08-19 Thread Jad Madi
hi, i'm trying to the logo over the main-nav any suggestions? http://easyhttp.com/css/css-ads.html -- Regards Jad madi Personal Blogger http://EasyHTTP.com/jad/ Web standards Planet http://w3planet.info/site/ EasyHTTP Network http://EasyHTTP.com

Re: [WSG] CSS rollover with dynamic drop down menu

2005-08-15 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day I'm trying to combine a CSS image rollover with a drop down menu. Everything is working fine bar the css image rollover. For some reason the a:hover is not being read. I've probably missed something very simple but just can't see it. Your HTML: Your CSS: #Home a:hover {backgro

[WSG] CSS rollover with dynamic drop down menu

2005-08-15 Thread Stuart Sherwood
I'm trying to combine a CSS image rollover with a drop down menu. Everything is working fine bar the css image rollover. For some reason the a:hover is not being read. I've probably missed something very simple but just can't see it. http://www.re-entity.com/Menu/index.htm http://www.re-entit

[WSG] CSS + FF Dilema

2005-06-17 Thread Helmut Granda
I have a weird dilema, I created a simple layout and everything works in IE but it brakes in FF. The top row links and a form. If anyone has a chance to take a look at: HTML: http://www.helmutgranda.com/csstest/ CSS: http://www.helmutgranda.com/csstest/css/nextiocss.css I am going to recreate

[WSG] css problem - navigation bar

2005-06-15 Thread hunter_c
Hi I realise you may all become frustrated with first time web site developers' problems, but please know that I'd really appreciate any help you may be able to provide. I'm developing my first site - trying to teach myself css - and have encountered some browser incompatablity mostly r

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-15 Thread Gene Falck
Hi Bert, You wrote: Or what about simple normal every-day headings? We can go up to 6 levels deep with them... I guess it all depends on the application. I think you nailed it--in a sense, **any** linear sequence is a "list" whether or not clarity can be helped by using markup to call out a

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-15 Thread John Allsopp
Bert, Patrick and all. The issue of semantics, presentation and accessibility for legislation is a really good example of the genuine social importance of what people like members of WSG do. The law is central to our society. We probably all know the maxim "ignorance of the law is no defenc

RE: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-15 Thread Joshua Street
On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 10:10 +0100, Patrick Lauke wrote: > I think that this (particularly the "legal document" case) is a > scenario in which we have to recognise that there *is* no widely supported > semantic equivalent. I'd agree with this statement, however, in terms of structuring your content

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-15 Thread John Allsopp
Bert, Or what about simple normal every-day headings? We can go up to 6 levels deep with them... I guess it all depends on the application. I think using headings is a very good suggestion. In legislation, the numbered entries we are talking about are indeed headings for sections, sub s

RE: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-15 Thread Patrick Lauke
> Bert Doorn > I don't have access to jaws or the like, but what about > semantics? Is it an unordered list made to look like an ordered > list, or an ordered list using the wrong element? I seem to remember, from my days with JAWS 4, that it would be read out as "List with 3 itemsbullet;

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-15 Thread Bert Doorn
Paul Novitski wrote: What about using ULs in this case? (That's how I originally marked up my example; should have left it like that!) How would a screen-reader read this: 1 - Aardvark 2 - Banshee 3 - Cicada I don't have acc

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-15 Thread Paul Novitski
At 12:54 AM 6/15/2005, Bert Doorn wrote: G'day Paul Novitski wrote: I would argue that this is perfectly good markup & styling: 1 - Aardvark 2 - Banshee 3 - Cicada and then: ol li { list-style-type

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-15 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day Paul Novitski wrote: I would argue that this is perfectly good markup & styling: 1 - Aardvark 2 - Banshee 3 - Cicada and then: ol li { list-style-type: none; } Question... How

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-15 Thread Paul Novitski
At 05:05 PM 6/14/2005, Richard Czeiger wrote: Wondering how we can get CSS to specifity the spearator used in ordered lists (ie: the thing between the list item number and the value of the list item). For example... 1. a) 1 - a: I would argue that this is perfectly g

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-14 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 15 Jun 2005, at 11:11 am, Derek Featherstone wrote: As has already been said, simply choosing the right DOCTYPE for the job may not be enough, though, given that we still don't really know to what degree punctuation matters. I've been busy putting a law text on a web page (alongside some

RE: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-14 Thread Derek Featherstone
On Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:56 PM, Terrence Wood wrote: > I completely agree, and have been involved in translating legislation > into a web format. It's a shame that the start attribute has been > deprecated in XHTML (last I looked). Well, there is always HTML 4.01 for these cases (legislation, s

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-14 Thread Terrence Wood
On 15 Jun 2005, at 12:19 PM, John Allsopp wrote: numbering is a very important part of the content of some documents (particularly legislation) and so should be in the content of the HTML I completely agree, and have been involved in translating legislation into a web format. It's a shame that

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-14 Thread heretic
> Wondering how we can get CSS to specifity the spearator used in ordered > lists (ie: the thing between the list item number and the value of the list > item). For example... As someone has already mentioned, http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/generate.html#counters will eventually be the way to do t

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-14 Thread John Horner
I need this ability to replicate government legislation and apparently it has to be an EXACT duplicate. As far as I can tell, this isn't in the spec. Has anyone found a solution? Some fancy CSS hack or DOM scripting that will get around this? If that "EXACT" is truly non-negotiable, as in, it

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-14 Thread Richard Czeiger
Thanks, Patrick. John reminded me of the counters. I'd forgotten about them because of their total lack of support... C'est la guerre :o) Richard - Original Message - From: "Patrick H. Lauke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:30

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-14 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Richard Czeiger wrote: Wondering how we can get CSS to specifity the spearator used in ordered lists As far as I can tell, you should be able to define that with the styles provided for automatic numbering and lists in CSS 2.1 http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/generate.html#counters (specifically,

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-14 Thread John Allsopp
Richard, Wondering how we can get CSS to specifity the spearator used in ordered lists (ie: the thing between the list item number and the value of the list item). For example... 1. a) 1 - a: I need this ability to replicate government legislation and apparently

[WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-14 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi all,   Wondering how we can get CSS to specifity the spearator used in ordered lists (ie: the thing between the list item number and the value of the list item). For example...   1.     a)         1 -             a:   I need this ability to replicate government legislation and apparently

SV: Re: [WSG] CSS problems in IE (weird font-size)

2005-06-06 Thread Nanna B.K.
> > Do you have a DTD declaration at the top of your > HTML? It can make quite > a difference to how IE works with CSS, especially > with tables and > percentage font sizes. And older versions of IE do > different things to > IE6 too. Hi, Thanks for all the good suggestions. It was neithe

Re: [WSG] CSS problems in IE (weird font-size)

2005-06-02 Thread Anthony Cartmell
Nanna, Has any one encountered problems with IE when using CSS style sheets? Yes, _lots_!! Do you have a DTD declaration at the top of your HTML? It can make quite a difference to how IE works with CSS, especially with tables and percentage font sizes. And older versions of IE do differ

RE: Re: [WSG] CSS problems in IE (weird font-size)

2005-06-02 Thread Mike Foskett
B.K. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2005 14:29 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: SV: Re: [WSG] CSS problems in IE (weird font-size) > It may, since the content of tables often does not inherit font > settings on a container element or even the body If it has to stay in > a t

Re: SV: Re: [WSG] CSS problems in IE (weird font-size)

2005-06-02 Thread Tim John
Hi Nanna, I think you'll find that if you give the relevant td's a font size, this should overcome the problem. Fingers crossed! Tim. >> It may, since the content of tables often does not >> inherit font >> settings on a container element or even the body >> If it has to stay in a table, add a rul

Re: SV: Re: [WSG] CSS problems in IE (weird font-size)

2005-06-02 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day again Thanks for replying so fast, it didn't work though. I have assigned each element in my menu a class either: Sounds like overkill to me, but hard to be specific without seeing the page. a.menu {background-color: #FF; color: #0066CC; text-align: left; text-decoration: bold;

SV: Re: [WSG] CSS problems in IE (weird font-size)

2005-06-02 Thread Nanna B.K.
> It may, since the content of tables often does not > inherit font > settings on a container element or even the body > If it has to stay in a table, add a rule in your css > for that > table (give it an id or class) and see if that fixes > the > immediate problem. Thanks for replying so fast,

Re: [WSG] CSS problems in IE (weird font-size)

2005-06-02 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day Has any one encountered problems with IE when using CSS style sheets? I'm making a web page with a menu using tables (which I think might be causing the problem in the first place) It may, since the content of tables often does not inherit font settings on a container element or even t

[WSG] CSS problems in IE (weird font-size)

2005-06-02 Thread Nanna B.K.
Hi, Has any one encountered problems with IE when using CSS style sheets? I'm making a web page with a menu using tables (which I think might be causing the problem in the first place) and for some reason the font-size is wrong in the menu. It looks all right in Firefox and Opera, but in IE some o

Re: [WSG] CSS selectors: next adjacent element?

2005-05-24 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 25 May 2005, at 9:42 am, Chris Stratford wrote: How well supported is this method - the +?? Any documentation of that? The usual suspects: Firefox, Safari, Omniweb, Opera, IE Mac all handle this correctly. For the browser with way too much market share, you'll need Dean's IE7. Philippe

Re: [WSG] CSS selectors: next adjacent element?

2005-05-24 Thread Chris Stratford
How well supported is this method - the +?? Any documentation of that? Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Matt Thommes wrote: I'm pretty sure I mean that - I am, perhaps, confused on what the plus (+) sign does. I was under the impression that your example meant this: Have a good read through http:

Re: [WSG] CSS Dropdown menu

2005-05-24 Thread Rowan Lewis
I'm just saying that its silly to reinvent things like :hover with javascript and DOM but its perfectly fine to write javascript to fix browser incompatability (IE doesn't support :hover on all elements). On 5/25/05, Thierry Koblentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rowan Lewis wrote: > > Nothing wron

Re: [WSG] CSS selectors: next adjacent element?

2005-05-24 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Matt Thommes wrote: I'm pretty sure I mean that - I am, perhaps, confused on what the plus (+) sign does. I was under the impression that your example meant this: Have a good read through http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/selector.html -- Patrick H. Lauke

Re: [WSG] CSS selectors: next adjacent element?

2005-05-24 Thread Matt Thommes
> Do you mean something like > > div.picture + h3 {...} I'm pretty sure I mean that - I am, perhaps, confused on what the plus (+) sign does. I was under the impression that your example meant this: ... .. rather than this: ... ... -Matthom On 5/24/05, Jan Brasna <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WSG] CSS selectors: next adjacent element?

2005-05-24 Thread Jan Brasna
Do you mean something like div.picture + h3 {...} ? -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hi

[WSG] CSS selectors: next adjacent element?

2005-05-24 Thread Matt Thommes
I know in CSS, there is a method to select the 'first child' of an element, as well as the 'first adjacent element', within an element. However, is there a way to select the 'next adjacent element' - within the same parent? Example: Headline Paragraph text I want to be able to select *o

Re: [WSG] CSS Dropdown menu

2005-05-24 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Rowan Lewis wrote: > Nothing wrong with styling states with CSS, but there is plenty wrong > with using javascript to overwrite CSS states when you could do > exactly the same thing with CSS. > However, adding javascript to make a browser work like the others do > is fine, but you should try to com

Re: [WSG] CSS Dropdown menu

2005-05-24 Thread Joshua Street
On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 14:00 +0200, Michael Lykke wrote: > Im just wondering - Cause sometimes it seems to me that alot of effort > is put into making something "correct" way beyond just adhering to the > webstandards. Like asking whether it is ok to use list definitions > when the list only has a s

Re: [WSG] CSS Dropdown menu

2005-05-24 Thread Michael Lykke
On 5/24/05, Thierry Koblentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is said that flyout and dropdown menus belong to the behavior layer and > that CSS should not be used to accomplish such things. > Also, because this technique relies on CSS *and* Scripting it overlaps 2 > layers; and that's supposed to b

Re: [WSG] CSS Dropdown menu

2005-05-24 Thread Rowan Lewis
Nothing wrong with styling states with CSS, but there is plenty wrong with using javascript to overwrite CSS states when you could do exactly the same thing with CSS. However, adding javascript to make a browser work like the others do is fine, but you should try to compress it some what, to save

Re: [WSG] CSS Dropdown menu

2005-05-23 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Frederic Fery wrote: > on your site is says" > What's Bad > > We're using CSS for another purpose than presentation." > why is it that bad? It is said that flyout and dropdown menus belong to the behavior layer and that CSS should not be used to accomplish such things. Also, because this technique

Re: [WSG] CSS Dropdown menu

2005-05-23 Thread Frederic Fery
on your site is says" What's Bad We're using CSS for another purpose than presentation." why is it that bad? On 5/24/05, Thierry Koblentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For people interested in "à la suckerfish" menus, this one now allows > tabbing navigation in MSIE too: > http://www.tjkdesign.

[WSG] CSS Dropdown menu

2005-05-23 Thread Thierry Koblentz
For people interested in "à la suckerfish" menus, this one now allows tabbing navigation in MSIE too: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/dropdown/demo.asp Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.or

Re: [WSG] CSS Hack?

2005-05-21 Thread Rowan Lewis
Nice find! I've tested (using your test page) on my copy of Internet Explorer: First: blue (not effected) Secont: red (effected) Thrid: black (not effected) Hope that helps you. On 5/22/05, Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cb2 Web Design wrote: > > It is a "empty comment hack": html/

Re: [WSG] CSS Hack?

2005-05-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Cb2 Web Design wrote: It is a "empty comment hack": html/**/body selector, that seems to be applied only by I.E. 6.x http://www.cb2web.com/tut_csshack.shtml Haven't seen that variant in the wild yet. My general response to this, and any hack, is in the headlines and start-paragraphs on thi

[WSG] CSS Hack?

2005-05-21 Thread Cb2 Web Design
I may have "crashed" into another I.E. CSS bug that I have used to provide this browser with a particular rule that will not be applied by, for instance, Firefox or Opera. It is a "empty comment hack": html/**/body selector, that seems to be applied only by I.E. 6.x So far I haven't found it docu

Re: [WSG] CSS list spacing: margin or line-height?

2005-05-18 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Matt Thommes wrote: > I've noticed that the CSS 'line-height' property provides extra > spacing between list items, such as in an ordered list, unordered > list, as well as definition lists. I try to favor line-height rather than padding if I'm dealing with an element that is styled with a height

Re: [WSG] CSS list spacing: margin or line-height?

2005-05-18 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day I've noticed that the CSS 'line-height' property provides extra spacing between list items, such as in an ordered list, unordered list, as well as definition lists. ... I was wondering if anyone else uses 'line-height' - or do most people use 'margin'? I'd stick with margins (or padding) unle

[WSG] CSS list spacing: margin or line-height?

2005-05-18 Thread Matt Thommes
I've noticed that the CSS 'line-height' property provides extra spacing between list items, such as in an ordered list, unordered list, as well as definition lists. In the past, I've always used the 'margin' property to add spacing between list items. IE: ul li { margin-bottom: 5px; } However,

Re: [WSG] CSS for changeing colors

2005-05-17 Thread Thierry Koblentz
The Man With His Guide Dog At The Tent Store wrote: > I do not know if this is off topic. Can CSS be used to change > background and foreground colors to create a more accessible web > site.? If so, how? Or please direct me to a web site that discusses > the topic. Alternative styles article: http

[WSG] CSS for changeing colors

2005-05-17 Thread The Man With His Guide Dog At The Tent Store
I do not know if this is off topic. Can CSS be used to change background and foreground colors to create a more accessible web site.? If so, how? Or please direct me to a web site that discusses the topic. Angus MacKinnon MacKinnon Crest Saying Latin - Audentes Fortuna Juvat English - Fortune A

Re: [WSG] CSS Comments

2005-05-11 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 12 May 2005, at 5:15 am, Drake, Ted C. wrote: This is a hack to send a style to Internet Explorer on windows and not mac. /* \*/ hides it from IE Mac, which doesn't understand the escape \ It would be better formulated as: 'A filter to hide the next rule block from IE Mac'. In full: /* hide fr

Re: [WSG] CSS Comments

2005-05-11 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Drake, Ted C. wrote: > This is a hack to send a style to Internet Explorer on windows and > not mac. IMHO, IE CCs are a better alternative to this hack: http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/ccomment_ovw.asp Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com *

Re: [WSG] CSS Comments

2005-05-11 Thread Jan Brasna
Hi, it's a CSS filter to rule out IE5Mac, see -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ S

RE: [WSG] CSS Comments

2005-05-11 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Kenna Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:56 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] CSS Comments Hi everyone, I realize that "/* */" are used to add comments to CSS, but I'm not clear on what "/* \*/" means, or what the single asterisk is used for. Kerri PS - I&#

Re: [WSG] CSS Comments

2005-05-11 Thread Horst Gutmann
Kerri McKenna wrote: Hi everyone, I realize that "/* */" are used to add comments to CSS, but I'm not clear on what "/* \*/" means, or what the single asterisk is used for. Kerri PS - I've only just joined the list so I do apologize if this is perceived as off topic. --- Exce

Re: [WSG] CSS Comments

2005-05-11 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Kerri McKenna wrote: Hi everyone, I realize that "/* */" are used to add comments to CSS, but I'm not clear on what "/* \*/" means, or what the single asterisk is used for. /* */ pairs alone are comments, yes, but they are also used as "hacks" when they are used in the right sequence. Some bro

[WSG] CSS Comments

2005-05-11 Thread Kerri McKenna
Hi everyone, I realize that "/* */" are used to add comments to CSS, but I'm not clear on what "/* \*/" means, or what the single asterisk is used for. Kerri PS - I've only just joined the list so I do apologize if this is perceived as off topic. --- Excerpt from Ted Drake

Re: [WSG] CSS Cheatsheet

2005-05-03 Thread Tom Livingston
On May 3, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Amit Karmakar wrote: http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/css_cheat_sheet.png Neat! Now the desktop pic on my second monitor. ;) -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com -- www.browsehappy.com www.opera.com ***

[WSG] CSS Cheatsheet

2005-05-03 Thread Amit Karmakar
Apologies in case this has been posted before. "The CSS cheat sheet is designed to act as a reminder and reference sheet, listing all selectors (as of CSS 2.1) and properties. It includes a visual example of the box model, unit reference for CSS units and the various media types CSS makes allowanc

[WSG] CSS mit neuen Augen sehen

2005-04-22 Thread Amit Karmakar
Worth a try people. Awesome tool for checking your HTML and CSS. 'CSS mit neuen Augen sehen' indeed. http://www.culturedcode.com/xyle/ Regards, Amit Karmakar http://karmakars.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See h

Re: [WSG] CSS Zen Garden piss take, anyone got link?

2005-04-17 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 4/18/05, Rebecca Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Don't know if anyone remembers seeing a sort of rip off of CSS Zen > Garden a while back? Someone did a manky looking old school design, not > on the main site. > > I'm after the URL if anyone has it. > http://www.tastydirt.com/ze

Re: [WSG] CSS Zen Garden piss take, anyone got link?

2005-04-17 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Rebecca Cox wrote: Don't know if anyone remembers seeing a sort of rip off of CSS Zen Garden a while back? Someone did a manky looking old school design, not on the main site. Off topic, but I remember Dave Shea sending me a chuckling reply when I pointed him to my own - admittedly super simple -

RE: [WSG] CSS Zen Garden piss take, anyone got link?

2005-04-17 Thread Paul Bennett
http://brucelawson.co.uk/garden ? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help

[WSG] CSS Zen Garden piss take, anyone got link?

2005-04-17 Thread Rebecca Cox
Hi all, Don't know if anyone remembers seeing a sort of rip off of CSS Zen Garden a while back? Someone did a manky looking old school design, not on the main site. I'm after the URL if anyone has it. Cheers :) ** The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] CSS issues: Opera's absolute positioning

2005-04-13 Thread Kvnmcwebn
0s 9 comments -for what there worth, in ie5.2 mac- messy overlaps w/radio buttons and text. positioning of google search button isnt right. maybe the backslash hack would do the trick if you feel inclined to support this browser. looks good in mozilla mac os 9 -kvnmcwebn

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