Re: [Zen] the original zen was the dog!

2012-10-25 Thread Anthony Wu
Mike,   Next time you address me, please put my name in the title, or I may delete your important message without reading it. I am gutting a low priority on the forum, Maybe it is time to take a long break and go somewhere else.   Anthony From: mike brown To:

[Zen] Sogyal Rinpoche and Sex Ritual

2012-10-24 Thread Anthony Wu
as  disbilieved by Edgar.   Enjoy reading at least part of it.   Anthony ____ From: Anthony Wu To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2012, 5:13 Subject: Re: [Zen] Why Meditate?   Bill!,   When you meet Sogyal Rinpoche, please ask him w

Re: [Zen] Keisaku / Kyosaku

2012-10-24 Thread Anthony Wu
Edgar,   I saw something similar. A male yoga teacher corrected the posture of cute women trainees much more often than with males. Is that a 'natural' tendency? What did he gain with that? Money wise it is the same, or even the reverse, because male students normally are more generous.   Anthon

Re: [Zen] Why Meditate?

2012-10-24 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill!,   When you meet Sogyal Rinpoche, please ask him whether he really realizes a status 'free of all cares and concerns' when he is doing a sexual union with a girl. Also important to ask how much he charges for learning the technique from him.   Anthony Fro

Re: [Zen] Why Meditate? *

2012-10-24 Thread Anthony Wu
Suresh,   Tibetan Tantra, which originated in India, devises a way of turning the 'unwholesome' sexual desire into a wholesome act by conducting it with special technique, which prevents ejaculation or leads to 'reverse ejaculation'. Do you believe it is true, or just an excuse for doing a norma

Re: [Zen] original zen

2012-10-23 Thread Anthony Wu
mportant Ch'an story references-- is given as, "shit-wiping stick".Important in Zen history! And obviously now.--Joe> Anthony Wu wrote:>> Merle,> > In reply to the question what is Buddha, an ancient zen master said, 'shit on the stick'.> > Anthony

Re: [Zen] original zen

2012-10-23 Thread Anthony Wu
it-wiping stick". Important in Zen history! And obviously now. --Joe > Anthony Wu wrote: > > Merle, > > In reply to the question what is Buddha, an ancient zen master said, 'shit on > the stick'. > > Anthony

Re: [Zen] original zen

2012-10-23 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   In reply to the question what is Buddha, an ancient zen master said, 'shit on the stick'.   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2012, 7:55 Subject: Re: [Zen] original zen    shit on the stick...tha

Re: [Zen] original zen

2012-10-22 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   Bill!'s stick is not designed for rapping on knuckles.  His is for the purpose of 'shit on the stick', airming for enlightenment.   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2012, 7:33 Subject: Re: [Zen] orig

Re: [Zen] boiling blood to make the good oil! * *

2012-10-22 Thread Anthony Wu
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Re: [Zen] original zen

2012-10-22 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   >From time to time I aim for some 'friendly friction'. However, it is far from >rapping on the knuckles. If you feel that way, I appologize.   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Monday, 22 October 2012, 13:23 Subject: [Z

Re: [Zen] gathering the chi

2012-10-22 Thread Anthony Wu
tober 2012, 13:25 Subject: Re: [Zen] gathering the chi    meaning what?..merle   Ha!--- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote:>> Merle,>  > Take care not to gather too much chi to become extremely irritable.>  > Anthony> > > ___

Re: [Zen] Re: genius

2012-10-21 Thread Anthony Wu
Everybody needs entertainment to escape from dull life.   Anthony From: Bill! To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 22 October 2012, 7:48 Subject: [Zen] Re: genius   Merle, I also understand why you want to cause friction on this forum. You want to be

Re: [Zen] boiling blood to make the good oil! *

2012-10-21 Thread Anthony Wu
make the good oil! *   Anthony, Roger, roger; but let's let JMJM speak for himself. --Joe > Anthony Wu wrote: > > Joe, >   > The easiest instrument to measure the flow path of body 'chi', is an electric > resistance detector. Whereever there is a

Re: [Zen] gathering the chi

2012-10-21 Thread Anthony Wu
ough, I will probably understand. Gladly. Will try. ;-)All best,--Joe> Anthony Wu wrote:>> Joe,>  > I don't have to go to a very quiet place to hear my ringing ears. the doctor always says I have a weak kidney. When I take a lot of tonic, the sound seems to grow weaker. Howeve

Re: [Zen] boiling blood to make the good oil! *

2012-10-21 Thread Anthony Wu
obably understand. Gladly. Will try. ;-) All best, --Joe > Anthony Wu wrote: > > Joe, >   > I don't have to go to a very quiet place to hear my ringing ears. the doctor > always says I have a weak kidney. When I take a lot of tonic, the sound seems > to grow weaker. Ho

Re: [Zen] boiling blood to make the good oil! *

2012-10-21 Thread Anthony Wu
e us a report, afterwards, pls? Wishing you a good experiment with this. --Joe > Anthony Wu wrote: > > Suresh, >   > Ringing in the ears is explained as due to a 'weak kidney' in Chinese > medicine. How much truth in it?

Re: [Zen] boiling blood to make the good oil! *

2012-10-21 Thread Anthony Wu
Suresh,   Ringing in the ears is explained as due to a 'weak kidney' in Chinese medicine. How much truth in it? It can be cured by taking a 'kidney tonic'. the organ 'kidney' is more than one that controls uration. It is the 'life basis'. Don't just look at it anatomy wise. It is associated with

Re: [Zen] More 'Nice' Stuff...

2012-10-19 Thread Anthony Wu
ays as well, to support it? Edgar On Oct 19, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Anthony Wu wrote:   > > >Pakistan is nice to America, therefore no democracy is brought there. >  > > > > >From: Bill! >To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Friday, 1

Re: [Zen] More 'Nice' Stuff...

2012-10-19 Thread Anthony Wu
Pakistan is nice to America, therefore no democracy is brought there.   From: Bill! To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 19 October 2012, 16:47 Subject: [Zen] More 'Nice' Stuff...   ...Bill!

Re: [Zen] Quantum Physics

2012-10-17 Thread Anthony Wu
at one too. It had a certain simplistic elegance to it. None of this quark, quack, boson, flavors, charm, strange, etc... ...Bill! --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Bill, >   > Quantum physics is more simple than that. The diagram you presented > pr

Re: [Zen] Quantum Physics

2012-10-17 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill,   Quantum physics is more simple than that. The diagram you presented previously with a statement, 'you are probably here', explains all.   Reviewing is welcome.   Anthony From: Bill! To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2012, 12:50 S

Re: [Zen] economic systems

2012-10-17 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill!,   The great zombie says:   Communism is from each according to his ability, and to each according to his need.   Socialism is from each according to his ability, and to each according to what he has done.   Remember this lest he haunt you from Tiananmen.   Anthony __

Re: [Zen] Re: I need some practice advice

2012-10-14 Thread Anthony Wu
to go with the Markets even when they are obviously irrational. ;-) I regret I did not buy TEN of those coins at the time. I could have gotten rid of a lot of paper. To keep this post on topic, I will mention Zen. Maybe I'll expand on that in the next post. --Joe > Anthony Wu wrote

Re: [Zen] Re: I need some practice advice

2012-10-14 Thread Anthony Wu
! To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 14 October 2012, 8:28 Subject: [Zen] Re: I need some practice advice   USA! USA! USA! Like any good Buddhist if we are running low on currency we'll create some more - out of compassion. ...Bill! --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Antho

Re: [Zen] Ch'an Centers

2012-10-14 Thread Anthony Wu
well-attended, in that big interesting place. Like in New York! Hong Kong center is at: Alexandra Industrial Building 23-27 Wing Hong Street Cheung Sha Wan Kowloon, Hong Kong Tel.: 852-2865-3110 All best, --Joe > Anthony Wu wrote: > > Next year I will spend most of my time in Hon

Re: [Zen] Hisorty

2012-10-14 Thread Anthony Wu
quite a practice of acceptance But then, there is this health issues, sustainable consumptions and all that. I was wondering how we can practise "choiceless choice" in regards to eating. How is yours... Respectfully, Your Net From: Anthony Wu Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Dat

Re: [Zen] Hisorty

2012-10-14 Thread Anthony Wu
I wish you good health, so you can keep enjoying the pohong. ... And keep posting here.. Net ____ From: Anthony Wu Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:44:06 +0800 (SGT) To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com ReplyTo: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Su

Re: [Zen] Ch'an Centers

2012-10-13 Thread Anthony Wu
Joe,   Next year I will spend most of my time in Hong Kong. I have located a center associated with Shengyen and will visit them.   Second Ave in Singapore is inconvenient to me.   Thanks Anthony From: Joe To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 14 October

Re: [Zen] Re: I need some practice advice

2012-10-13 Thread Anthony Wu
e above is nothing other than Dependent Origination - everything is inter-connected which makes cause and effect nothing other that a useful convention. Nothing to do with denying it. Mike ________ From: Anthony Wu To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturda

Re: [Zen] Re: I need some practice advice

2012-10-13 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill/Mike,   If you want to deny scientific cause and effect, jump off a cliff (not a fiscal one). If you want to deny Buddhist cause and effect, kill your neighbor. I hope attaining Buddha nature can avoid this, but then you don't kill your neighbor either.   Anthony

Re: [Zen] Re: Buddha-nature and Expansion of Space

2012-10-12 Thread Anthony Wu
An amorphous peg can fit into a square hole, as long as it is flexible enough. A porqupine can also 'fit' into a hole, but it has trouble getting out.   Anthony  From: Bill! To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2012, 9:40 Subject: [Zen] Re:

Re: [Zen] Hisorty

2012-10-12 Thread Anthony Wu
ues, sustainable consumptions and all that. I was wondering how we can practise "choiceless choice" in regards to eating. How is yours... Respectfully, Your Net From: Anthony Wu Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:52:47 +0800

Re: [Zen] Hisorty

2012-10-12 Thread Anthony Wu
w is your diet? How do you be mindful when it comes to choices... Net Siska ________ From: Anthony Wu Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 05:50:56 +0800 (SGT) To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com ReplyTo: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] His

Re: [Zen] Re: I need some practice advice

2012-10-11 Thread Anthony Wu
friends will be there! ;-) --Joe PS I *am* scared by those Hells of Perpetual Dentistry, though. > Anthony Wu wrote: > > They say the Indian hell is not a bad place. The nail bed has all the nails > stolen, and the devil who is supposed to beat you up is just a civil servant, > who

Re: [Zen] Re: I need some practice advice

2012-10-11 Thread Anthony Wu
They say the Indian hell is not a bad place. The nail bed has all the nails stolen, and the devil who is supposed to beat you up is just a civil servant, who clocks in every morning and immediatey clocks out without regard to the hell beings. So you are left to enjoy yourselves.   Anthony

Re: [Zen] Hisorty

2012-10-10 Thread Anthony Wu
don't use the term Encik. Instead we say "Om", which I believe is a Dutch word with same meaning. Siska From: Anthony Wu Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 22:37:14 +0800 (SGT) To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com ReplyTo: Zen_Forum@y

Re: [Zen] Hisorty

2012-10-09 Thread Anthony Wu
o much history and too little zen. You just saved money you'd otherwise have to spend for psychiatrist advice. Maybe you can buy me a lot of chicken rice with that saving... Siska ________ thoseFrom: Anthony Wu Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue,

Re: [Zen] Hisorty

2012-10-08 Thread Anthony Wu
:) Siska --Original Message------ From: Anthony Wu Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com ReplyTo: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty Sent: Oct 8, 2012 04:51   Siska,   I forgot something. Sakyamuni also came to Indonesia, where he met and scolded th

Re: [Zen] Hisorty

2012-10-07 Thread Anthony Wu
r 2012, 22:45 Subject: Re: [Zen] Hisorty   Hello Uncle, He may as well be, who knows :-D Cheers, Siska ____ From: Anthony Wu Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 22:36:02 +0800 (SGT) To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com ReplyTo: Zen_Forum@yahoo

Re: [Zen] Hisorty

2012-10-07 Thread Anthony Wu
If history is fiction and illusion, I can say Sakyamuni was born in Africa and fought war with American Indians before he became Buddha. Buddha itself is illusion after all.   Anthony From: billsmart To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 7 October 2012,

Re: [Zen] Journey To The West 西游记 2011 Trailer (Zhang Jizhong TV Series) - YouTube

2012-10-04 Thread Anthony Wu
I watched parts of the movie on local TV. The computer technique is impressive, while the plot is poor, with just a few episodes of interest. One of them is about a beautiful rat spirit, who catches the Tang monk and tries to force him to marry her. The monk replies that his disciple the Monkey

Re: [Zen] The Monk..correction

2012-10-03 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill!,   Shshshsht. That is why you did not dare to come to his place last time you were in Beijing, or he would have sat up and haunted you all your life. Never mind, next time I am going to bring two jossticks. One for myself, the other on your behalf, to placate him.   Anthony _

Re: [Zen] The Monk..correction

2012-10-02 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   The zombie that was worshipped (before he became a zombie) by billions, including his own dearest comrade in arms.   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012, 5:23 Subject: Re: [Zen] The Monk..correction

Re: [Zen] flat earther

2012-10-02 Thread Anthony Wu
Joe,   How many 'snakes' have you met to be back to square minus one?   Anthony From: Joe To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012, 11:44 Subject: Re: [Zen] flat earther   Negative two points. Back to square Minus-One. We all want to get

Re: [Zen] The Monk..correction

2012-10-01 Thread Anthony Wu
Yes I do. Not only Dalai Lama, but only the Great Zombie lying in Tiananmen Square.   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Monday, 1 October 2012, 20:39 Subject: Fw: [Zen] The Monk..correction    sorry i meant i  not do worship

Re: [Zen] The Monk

2012-10-01 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   There you are. Dalai is a monk, so he knows everything. AS long as you worship him, he will give you every answer.   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Monday, 1 October 2012, 8:06 Subject: Re: [Zen] The Monk    how

Re: [Zen] Re: attachments: what about the promised land?

2012-10-01 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill!,   Don't mention it. I have a lot more allies.   Anthony From: Bill! To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 1 October 2012, 8:15 Subject: [Zen] Re: attachments: what about the promised land?   Merle, There you go again, personalizing and inferring

Re: [Zen] Re: Diamond sutra

2012-10-01 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill!,   Where is the Like button. I don't see it. Press it for me a dozen times.   Anthony From: Bill! To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 1 October 2012, 8:17 Subject: [Zen] Re: Diamond sutra   I pressed the LIKE button on this one...Bill! --- In m

Re: [Zen] Re: flat earther

2012-10-01 Thread Anthony Wu
'follow' zen, I practice zen.  I don't follow Tanta [sic] Buddhism (or any other Buddhism or any other religion) because I don't need a structure like that to guide me. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Bill!, >   > Both Lamism (tan

Re: [Zen] The Monk

2012-09-30 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   You made a mistake. If you had asked Dalai Lama from the beginning, he would have given you the answer right away, saving you from travelling the world counting grass blades.   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "4dwor...@yahoogroups.com" <4dwor...@yahoogr

Re: [Zen] flat earther

2012-09-30 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   The earth IS flat, supported by a big turtlle. That turtle stands on another, who also stands on still another. It's turtles all the way down.   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012, 7:00 Subject:

Re: [Zen] flat earther

2012-09-30 Thread Anthony Wu
earther   Anthony, If you're talking about the Dalai Lama, he's a Lamist, not what I would call a Buddhist...Bill! --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Merle, >   > Bill! is buying Dalai's bumper stickers. Do it while stocks last. After all

Re: [Zen] flat earther

2012-09-29 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   Bill! is buying Dalai's bumper stickers. Do it while stocks last. After all, he is not such a great man worth all the propaganda.   Is tantra Buddhism part of Buddhism, or just part of Tantra?   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com"

Re: [Zen] blue blue yonder......

2012-09-25 Thread Anthony Wu
iddle of the Earth. "We" reach out from there. There is only One being. (speechless), --Joe > Anthony Wu wrote: > > Merle, > > Happy birthday and enjoy your life upside down. > > From Anthony, downside up.

Re: [Zen] the lotus

2012-09-23 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill!,   Since he relinguished political leadership, he has time to produce more bumper stickers. Mind you. They are popular. Order them while stocks last.   Anthony From: Bill! To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2012, 15:56 Subject: Re: [

Re: [Zen] blue blue yonder......

2012-09-23 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   Happy birthday and enjoy your life upside down.   >From Anthony, downside up. From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2012, 18:01 Subject: [Zen] blue blue yonder..    jesus edgar...i was thinking which

Re: [Zen] seeking traction

2012-09-21 Thread Anthony Wu
. Buddha said, "The ten thousand dharma are for ferrying ten thousand hearts." Are you sure you will do what you just posted? Applause. On 9/21/2012 2:44 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:   >JM, >  >By the same token, many Chinese translations of Buddhist text from Sanskrit,

Re: [Zen] the green dragon

2012-09-21 Thread Anthony Wu
I cannot prove that, but you can by coming close to him.   anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Saturday, 22 September 2012, 6:35 Subject: [Zen] the green dragon     goodness me is bill!!! that dangerous? ..he mi

Re: [Zen] the gospel of....

2012-09-21 Thread Anthony Wu
ng' because the 'gospel' to which Merle refers is in the New Testament, not the Old Testament. Shame on you! ...Bill! --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Doesn't the Old Testament always encourages the Jews to invade, conquer, &g

Re: [Zen] open your heart

2012-09-21 Thread Anthony Wu
ughts come >and go effortlessly. This is not a problem. Following them or ignoring them, >grasping and rejecting them - in relation to self - reveals ordinary mind's >habitual ignorance of Original mind. > >Mindfulness allows dis-tractions to serve as reminders not to seek tracti

Re: [Zen] seeking traction

2012-09-21 Thread Anthony Wu
rible. I asked some 'authorities'. Each came up with different explanation. We need to rewrite them based on the words of modern enlightened masters.   Anthony From: 覺妙精明 (JMJM) To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Cc: Anthony Wu Sent: Saturday, 22 Septe

Re: [Zen] seeking traction

2012-09-21 Thread Anthony Wu
owing them or ignoring them, >grasping and rejecting them - in relation to self - reveals ordinary mind's >habitual ignorance of Original mind. > >Mindfulness allows dis-tractions to serve as reminders not to seek traction. > >KG > > > > > > > > >On

Re: [Zen] invasion

2012-09-21 Thread Anthony Wu
As far as the koan about what you should do about the man dropping ashes on the Buddha, come closer and I'll tell you... ...Bill! --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Bill!, >   > Some guests are stubborn. You can tell them you are busy or write do

Re: [Zen] invasion

2012-09-20 Thread Anthony Wu
ck to meditating with the assurance you will attend to the thought later. I've never done that nor felt the need to do that, but it might be worth a try if these thoughts/questions are keeping you from meditating. ...Bill! --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > &g

Re: [Zen] the gospel of....

2012-09-20 Thread Anthony Wu
like that. In this case you're obviously 'twisting and changing' because the 'gospel' to which Merle refers is in the New Testament, not the Old Testament. Shame on you! ...Bill! --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Doesn't the Old

Re: [Zen] invasion

2012-09-20 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   I am just concerned your 'questions' will be carried over to your meditation. The powerful weapon for that is Bill's 'just this', if you can apply it.   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012, 6:38

Re: [Zen] the gospel of....

2012-09-20 Thread Anthony Wu
Doesn't the Old Testament always encourages the Jews to invade, conquer, torture and kill? Please let me know if I am wrong.   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012, 6:44 Subject: [Zen] the gospel of

Re: [Zen] invasion

2012-09-20 Thread Anthony Wu
September 2012, 9:38 Subject: Re: [Zen] invasion   Same problem is created by attachment to thinking "well" applies to meditation! *L* Your "tip", perhaps pointier than it may appear! ;) KG On 9/19/2012 6:09 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:   >Merle, >  >I give yo a tip. If yo

Re: [Zen] invasion

2012-09-19 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   I give yo a tip. If you always want questions to be answered, you can never meditate well.   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2012, 6:32 Subject: Re: [Zen] invasion    anthony..please note...

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-19 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   Of course, my buddy Pol Pot did a great job when he speeded up the process of returning to dust by killing so many people and torturing them in the process as an entertainment.   Don;t forgiet suffering.   anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yaho

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-19 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   That was what they did when American Indians and Australian aborigines were invaded. How would they like?   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2012, 15:04 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING

Re: [Zen] invasion

2012-09-18 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   You are right 100%. You are also right in throwing up your hands saying 'that is life'. Don't think back in histroy of every country including Australia and the USA. That is unwholesome to your meditation.   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@ya

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-18 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   One more story: about 18 years ago, I was on the same train with Bill!'s teacher Mr Frontcorner, going to the sacred Nanhua Temple where the Sixth Patriach preachered dharma for the first time. I saw the embalmed body of the Patriach, then was told it was actually a reproduction. The re

Re: [Zen] invasion

2012-09-17 Thread Anthony Wu
helmingly supportive of the Dalai Lama, and are against Chinese occupation, maybe should be considered. All this stuff about tantric sexual practices is a bit over my head, so I don't have any comments to make about it either. Mike ________ From: Anthony Wu To: &qu

Re: [Zen] Re: mandalas

2012-09-17 Thread Anthony Wu
in between the English soft 'g' and the hard 'k' sound. ...Bill! --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Bill!, >   > Now Thais have stopped pronouncing 'r', instead, they all say 'l'. That is > why last time when you ordered

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-17 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   there are tooo many stories to tell about the cultural revolution. Suffice it to say that you don't dare even to think about the shortcomings of the 'great leader', because you may then unwittingly say something not supposed to say and be killed by the red guard. Thank god, he is now ly

Re: [Zen] languages

2012-09-17 Thread Anthony Wu
So you are cousins far removed from Japanese? Are Lithuanian and Latvian in the same group?   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012, 17:46 Subject: [Zen] languages       Estonian is similar to Finn

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-17 Thread Anthony Wu
Mike,   Yangzhou is not china, because 2,000 years ago, they were conquered by the Qin emperor and forced to give up their language and culture to adopt the unified Qin system.   Next time you go there again, don't eat the river dolphin, which is deadly poisonous.   Anthony ___

Re: [Zen] invasion

2012-09-17 Thread Anthony Wu
Israel is the result of invasion by Jewish people into the land of Arabs. Is it justified? Should the Kurds get an independent country? Furthermore, how about Australian aborigines and American Indians? Based on language and ethnicity, Indonesia should be broken up into a hundred countries. We h

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-16 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   I went to college in China and spent a total of 18 Years there including those turmoil years of the cultural revolution.   I assume the Estonian language is nothing like Russian. What is that like?   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-16 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   No way China will give up the strategically important Tibet. Estonians are a completely different race than Russians. But Tibetans are from the same language family as the Han Chinese. What they do is only simplify the pronunciation from  'rdzogt tschen' to 'dzog chen'.   Anthony

Re: [Zen] Re: mandalas

2012-09-16 Thread Anthony Wu
Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2012, 15:37 Subject: [Zen] Re: mandalas   Anthony, Pronounce it like 'crop' but trill the 'r' and you've got it! ...Bill! --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Bill! >   > I have to stop saying that, beca

Re: [Zen] Drinking Urine

2012-09-15 Thread Anthony Wu
7;t too far from what I found http://www.universal-tao.com/article/urine_therapy.html  B Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! On Sep 13, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Anthony Wu wrote: > Edgar, > > Dalai Lama says, if you are faced with two glasses, one containing wine, the > other urine, y

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-15 Thread Anthony Wu
gar describes... this is plain silly...he can drink the urine if he wishes..it's his choice.. but to impose a rule as a must... smacks of fundamentalist crap..merle   Anthony, I don't know where you get this garbage Antony? Edgar On Sep 13, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-15 Thread Anthony Wu
of his books...and his > > > teachings are sound...merle > > > > > > > > >   > > > Anthony, > > > > > > Don't put too much stock in anything The Dalai Lama says. He's now just > > > another out-of-work politi

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-15 Thread Anthony Wu
ailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Bill!/Merle, >   > At least the way Tibetan monks conduct sex rituals sounds like treating women > like cattle. That is in the name of reaching highest compassion > and emptiness in the process. >   > Anthony > > &g

Re: [Zen] Re: thailand..bill

2012-09-15 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill!,   DThat is a good idea. A tantra monk can do the other way around. When they feel depressed they go to their monastry to do a sex ritual, then back to life. This time, when depressed by Ben Bernanke's money printing, why not go to the temple again?   Anthony

Re: [Zen] Re: mandalas

2012-09-15 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill!   I have to stop saying that, because everytime I do, I sound like saying' sawadi crap'.   Anthony From: Bill! To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 15 September 2012, 13:32 Subject: [Zen] Re: mandalas   Merle, I have 10 grandchildren. All liv

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-14 Thread Anthony Wu
! Practice makes perfect! Or maybe I should show them how? :-) Edgar On Sep 14, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Anthony Wu wrote:   > > >Edgar, >  >At least I know of two examples where giirls don't reach enlightenment orgasms >in those tantra rituals: June Campbell and a Buthanes

Re: [Zen] Drinking Urine

2012-09-14 Thread Anthony Wu
't too far from what I found http://www.universal-tao.com/article/urine_therapy.html  B Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! On Sep 13, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Anthony Wu wrote: > Edgar, > > Dalai Lama says, if you are faced with two glasses, one containing wine, the >

Re: [Zen] thailand..bill

2012-09-14 Thread Anthony Wu
Merle,   Bill! (not Bill) says Thai monks are alllowed to eat meat, as lonng as they don't kill animals themselves. By the same token, they can smoke, as long as they don't light the cigarettes themselves.   Anthony From: Merle Lester To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-14 Thread Anthony Wu
't be silly. The girls reach enlightenment orgasms in those Tantra rituals. And when they come they scream "MU!" :-) Edgar On Sep 14, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Anthony Wu wrote:   > > >Bill!/Merle, >  >At least the way Tibetan monks conduct sex rituals sounds like treat

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-14 Thread Anthony Wu
BUDDHA    ridiculous...the dalai lama never has sex... so what would he know ?..and if he is having sex with himself as edgar describes... this is plain silly...he can drink the urine if he wishes..it's his choice.. but to impose a rule as a must... smacks of fundamentalist crap..

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-14 Thread Anthony Wu
sound...merle > > >   > Anthony, > > Don't put too much stock in anything The Dalai Lama says. He's now just > another out-of-work politician...Bill! > > --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > > > Edgar, > > T

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-13 Thread Anthony Wu
bes... this is plain silly...he can drink the urine if he wishes..it's his choice.. but to impose a rule as a must... smacks of fundamentalist crap..merle   Anthony, I don't know where you get this garbage Antony? Edgar On Sep 13, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Anthony Wu wrote: > Edgar, &g

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-13 Thread Anthony Wu
s is plain silly...he can drink the urine if he wishes..it's his choice.. but to impose a rule as a must... smacks of fundamentalist crap..merle   Anthony, I don't know where you get this garbage Antony? Edgar On Sep 13, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Anthony Wu wrote: > Edgar, &g

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-13 Thread Anthony Wu
don't know where you get this garbage Antony? Edgar On Sep 13, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Anthony Wu wrote: > Edgar, > > Dalai Lama says, if you are faced with two glasses, one containing wine, the > other urine, you must drink both without hesitation, in order to qualify for > the s

Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA

2012-09-13 Thread Anthony Wu
: Thursday, 13 September 2012, 8:30 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA   Hi Anthony, Sure, it's possible I do it all the time... Edgar On Sep 12, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:   > > >Edgar, >  >You say, ' Remember Tantra, and some Taoist sch

Re: [Zen] the real world and zen power

2012-09-13 Thread Anthony Wu
Mike,   Yes, many are confused between conventional and ultimate truths. If we are already perfect, why should we practice? Huineng's poem represents ultimate truth, while in reality, he was almost killed by another monk who tried to get the robe and bowl his teacher gave him. Because of your un

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