[zfs-discuss] Setting up for zfsboot

2007-04-04 Thread Paul Boven
Hi everyone, Now that zfsboot is becoming available, I'm wondering how to put it to use. Imagine a system with 4 identical disks. Of course I'd like to use raidz, but zfsboot doesn't do raidz. What if I were to partition the drives, such that I have 4 small partitions that make up a zfsboot

Re: [zfs-discuss] Gzip compression for ZFS

2007-04-04 Thread Darren Reed
From: Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... The other problem is that you basically need a global unique registry anyway so that compress algorithm 1 is always lzjb, 2 is gzip, 3 is etc etc. Similarly for crypto and any other transform. I've two thoughts on that: 1) if there is to be a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Gzip compression for ZFS

2007-04-04 Thread Casper . Dik
From: Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... The other problem is that you basically need a global unique registry anyway so that compress algorithm 1 is always lzjb, 2 is gzip, 3 is etc etc. Similarly for crypto and any other transform. I've two thoughts on that: 1) if there is to be

[zfs-discuss] Is it possible to see USED and SIZE properties in bytes of zpool?

2007-04-04 Thread Viktor Turskyi
I can get USED in bytes of file systems in zfs pool but i do not know how to get USED in bytes for pools. I need such exact value of used size on pool to get system overheads while using snapshots. Any information about this? This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is it possible to see USED and SIZE properties in bytes of zpool?

2007-04-04 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Viktor, Wednesday, April 4, 2007, 1:17:58 PM, you wrote: VT I can get USED in bytes of file systems in zfs pool but i do not VT know how to get USED in bytes for pools. VT I need such exact value of used size on pool to get system VT overheads while using snapshots. Any information

Re: [zfs-discuss] Setting up for zfsboot

2007-04-04 Thread Constantin Gonzalez
Hi, Now that zfsboot is becoming available, I'm wondering how to put it to use. Imagine a system with 4 identical disks. Of course I'd like to use you lucky one :). raidz, but zfsboot doesn't do raidz. What if I were to partition the drives, such that I have 4 small partitions that make up

Re: [zfs-discuss] Setting up for zfsboot

2007-04-04 Thread Manoj Joseph
Constantin Gonzalez wrote: Do I still have the advantages of having the whole disk 'owned' by zfs, even though it's split into two parts? I'm pretty sure that this is not the case: - ZFS has no guarantee that someone will do something else with that other partition, so it can't assume the

[zfs-discuss] Re: zfs blocks numbers for small files

2007-04-04 Thread Mark Maybee
Frederic Payet - Availability Services wrote: Hi gurus, When creating some small files an ZFS directory, used blocks number is not what could be espected: hinano# zfs list NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT pool2 702K 16.5G 26.5K /pool2 pool2/new

Re: [zfs-discuss] Setting up for zfsboot

2007-04-04 Thread Constantin Gonzalez
Hi, Manoj Joseph wrote: Can write-cache not be turned on manually as the user is sure that it is only ZFS that is using the entire disk? yes it can be turned on. But I don't know if ZFS would then know about it. I'd still feel more comfortably with it being turned off unless ZFS itself does

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Setting up for zfsboot

2007-04-04 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Constantin, Wednesday, April 4, 2007, 3:34:13 PM, you wrote: CG - RAID-Z is slow when writing, you basically get only one disk's bandwidth. CG (Yes, with variable block sizes this might be slightly better...) No, it's not. It's actually very fast for writing, in many cases it would be

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: today panic ...

2007-04-04 Thread Gino
Gino, I just had a similar experience and was able to import the pool when I added the readonly option (zpool import -f -o ro ) no way ... We still get a panic :( gino This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing

Re: [zfs-discuss] Setting up for zfsboot

2007-04-04 Thread Adam Leventhal
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 03:34:13PM +0200, Constantin Gonzalez wrote: - RAID-Z is _very_ slow when one disk is broken. Do you have data on this? The reconstruction should be relatively cheap especially when compared with the initial disk access. Adam -- Adam Leventhal, Solaris Kernel

Re: [zfs-discuss] Setting up for zfsboot

2007-04-04 Thread Eric Schrock
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 10:08:07AM -0700, Adam Leventhal wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 03:34:13PM +0200, Constantin Gonzalez wrote: - RAID-Z is _very_ slow when one disk is broken. Do you have data on this? The reconstruction should be relatively cheap especially when compared with the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Setting up for zfsboot

2007-04-04 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 10:08:07AM -0700, Adam Leventhal wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 03:34:13PM +0200, Constantin Gonzalez wrote: - RAID-Z is _very_ slow when one disk is broken. Do you have data on this? The reconstruction should be relatively cheap especially when compared with the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Setting up for zfsboot

2007-04-04 Thread Lori Alt
Can write-cache not be turned on manually as the user is sure that it is only ZFS that is using the entire disk? yes it can be turned on. But I don't know if ZFS would then know about it. I'd still feel more comfortably with it being turned off unless ZFS itself does it. But maybe

[zfs-discuss] zfs blocks numbers for small files

2007-04-04 Thread Cyril Payet
Resent, for Fred... Hi gurus, When creating some small files an ZFS directory, used blocks number is not what could be espected: hinano# zfs list NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT pool2 702K 16.5G 26.5K /pool2 pool2/new 604K 16.5G34K

[zfs-discuss] ZFS boot: a new heads-up

2007-04-04 Thread Lori Alt
It has been pointed out to me that if you have set up a zfs boot configuration using the old-style prototype code (where you had to have a ufs boot slice), and you BFU that system with a version of the Solaris archives that contain the new zfsboot support, your system will panic. So until we

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Setting up for zfsboot

2007-04-04 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Adam, Wednesday, April 4, 2007, 7:08:07 PM, you wrote: AL On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 03:34:13PM +0200, Constantin Gonzalez wrote: - RAID-Z is _very_ slow when one disk is broken. AL Do you have data on this? The reconstruction should be relatively cheap AL especially when compared with the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Setting up for zfsboot

2007-04-04 Thread Adam Leventhal
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 11:04:06PM +0200, Robert Milkowski wrote: If I stop all activity to x4500 with a pool made of several raidz2 and then I issue spare attach I get really poor performance (1-2MB/s) on a pool with lot of relatively small files. Does that mean the spare is resilvering when

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs destroy snapshot takes hours

2007-04-04 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Matthew Ahrens wrote: Miroslav Pendev wrote: I did some more testing, here is what I found: - I can destroy older and newer snapshots, just not that particular snapshot - I added some more memory total 1GB, now after I start the destroy command, ~500MB RAM are taken right away, there is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Setting up for zfsboot

2007-04-04 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Lori Alt wrote: Can write-cache not be turned on manually as the user is sure that it is only ZFS that is using the entire disk? yes it can be turned on. But I don't know if ZFS would then know about it. I'd still feel more comfortably with it being turned off unless ZFS itself does it.

[zfs-discuss] Excessive checksum errors...

2007-04-04 Thread Chris Csanady
After replacing a bad disk and waiting for the resilver to complete, I started a scrub of the pool. Currently, I have the pool mounted readonly, yet almost a quarter of the I/O is writes to the new disk. In fact, it looks like there are so many checksum errors, that zpool doesn't even list them

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS boot: a new heads-up

2007-04-04 Thread Ivan Wang
So any date on when install utility will support zfs root fresh install? almost can't wait for that. Cheers, Ivan. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS boot: a new heads-up

2007-04-04 Thread James C. McPherson
Ivan Wang wrote: So any date on when install utility will support zfs root fresh install? almost can't wait for that. Hi Ivan, there's no firm date for this yet, though the install team are working *really* hard at getting this to happen as soon as humanly possible. James C. McPherson --