Steve Jones wrote:
> 2009/1/11 Nick Gall <[email protected]>:
>   
>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Anne Thomas Manes <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>     
>>> Exactly my point. You don't sell SOA or REST to an executive. Even the
>>> Web is a tough sell. What you sell them is the Amazon/Google IT
>>> operational model (at least in the case of Bechtel).
>>>       
>> Agreed. You sell the Web to the business. The you sell WOA/REST to IT as
>> part of the approach for delivering the Web. The beauty of this approach is
>> that the business already knows about the Web, already believes it has
>> game-changing possibilities, etc.
>>     
>
> Which is why they have websites... that doesn't mean that REST follows from 
> Web.
>   

I don't understand the point you are making here. If we assume SOA is on 
the agenda; why has WOA/REST suddenly evaporated as a viable approach?

>   
>> The problem with SOA is there is no concrete success story comparable to the
>> Web to point business people to.
>>     
>
> Probably the company that they run and certainly the way that they
> perceive the globalised economy.
>
> I've always sold SOA as being about making IT work like the business.
> The Web isn't that (see my paraphrase of a real overheard
> conversation) its a technology.
>   

The Web isn't, but WOA is?

> You can have WOA in a SOA world, but WOA will never get beyond the
> technology (IMO) while SOA is best done at the business level
Don't understand this either; would you mind elaborating, please?

Regards,
Mike

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