On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 08:33:47PM -1000, Joseph Kowalski wrote: > Do you believe the OGB wants to be the target of US Government export > control?
This isn't the right question; the OGB isn't an entity and doesn't export anything. But even that doesn't matter; everyone located in the United States is subject to that country's laws. Nothing Sun's lawyers do (or Sun does) changes that. > OGB, and all of OpenSolaris, are leveraging the Sun Paid lawyers. If > OGB (or > whatever) wants to pay their own lawyers, they are welcome too. We're not leveraging Sun's lawyers, though. They aren't accountable to us, they don't share their reasoning, methods, or processes with us, and so far as I can tell they are a giant black box of delay-and-deny. At best we might hope that they serve Sun's interests, but they certainly don't serve ours and cannot be expected to. If Sun wants to employ lawyers and seek their advice with respect to Solaris, it has that sovereign right. It does not, however, have the right to force their lawyers on the rest of us. Or are you saying that I can hire a lawyer and hold every project team hostage until he's approved their integration request? Since he works for me, this effectively gives me an absolute veto over every project - I can delay or deny them arbitrarily and without explanation. > Then again, until (if?) a OpenSolaris reference distribution exists, > this seems > to be a hypothetical issue. It's much more than a hypothetical issue. Vim's integration into OpenSolaris is being held up by people who are not accountable to us or to any Community Group, and whose ability to participate in the process is not sanctioned by the OGB or any piece of OpenSolaris community-approved process. If it were a hypothetical issue, I'd be happy to ignore or defer it. It's not, and the current state of affairs is unacceptable. -- Keith M Wesolowski "Sir, we're surrounded!" FishWorks "Excellent; we can attack in any direction!"
