Wait, that's it. Sun already ships Vim on the CCD and with the studio compiler... Doesn't that set a precedent?
On 8/23/07, Sriram Natarajan <Sriram.Natarajan at sun.com> wrote: > Some how, I find the argument 'lawyers don't allow us to ship" not very > compelling considering most of the linux distributors have successfully > distributed vim for so long. How we are different ? , Even after so many > posts, this discussion will die soon (as before) and without shipping > basic productivity tools for a programmer like a programmer friendly > editor (e.g vim or emacs). > > Note: Most of the software distributed within our companion CD (like vim > or gdb) is way way old unlike the software we distribute within /usr/sfw > and how many locations does a programmer need to set in his PATH to get > going ? > > thanks > sriram > > Keith M Wesolowski wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 08:33:47PM -1000, Joseph Kowalski wrote: > > > > > >> Do you believe the OGB wants to be the target of US Government export > >> control? > >> > > > > This isn't the right question; the OGB isn't an entity and doesn't > > export anything. But even that doesn't matter; everyone located in > > the United States is subject to that country's laws. Nothing Sun's > > lawyers do (or Sun does) changes that. > > > > > >> OGB, and all of OpenSolaris, are leveraging the Sun Paid lawyers. If > >> OGB (or > >> whatever) wants to pay their own lawyers, they are welcome too. > >> > > > > We're not leveraging Sun's lawyers, though. They aren't accountable > > to us, they don't share their reasoning, methods, or processes with > > us, and so far as I can tell they are a giant black box of > > delay-and-deny. At best we might hope that they serve Sun's > > interests, but they certainly don't serve ours and cannot be expected > > to. If Sun wants to employ lawyers and seek their advice with respect > > to Solaris, it has that sovereign right. It does not, however, have > > the right to force their lawyers on the rest of us. Or are you saying > > that I can hire a lawyer and hold every project team hostage until > > he's approved their integration request? Since he works for me, this > > effectively gives me an absolute veto over every project - I can delay > > or deny them arbitrarily and without explanation. > > > > > >> Then again, until (if?) a OpenSolaris reference distribution exists, > >> this seems > >> to be a hypothetical issue. > >> > > > > It's much more than a hypothetical issue. Vim's integration into > > OpenSolaris is being held up by people who are not accountable to us > > or to any Community Group, and whose ability to participate in the > > process is not sanctioned by the OGB or any piece of OpenSolaris > > community-approved process. If it were a hypothetical issue, I'd be > > happy to ignore or defer it. It's not, and the current state of > > affairs is unacceptable. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sfwnv-discuss mailing list > sfwnv-discuss at opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/sfwnv-discuss > -- - Brian Gupta http://opensolaris.org/os/project/nycosug/
