That olde pendalum swing into the unknown , eh?
..somewhere between control by force and enlightened self control is what we seek and have not yet found. Everything is !fight! ...fight for peace, war against hunger, terrorize the terrorists. Wars against drugs vs find your own value....."The Pharm and Doctor cabal" vs using common sense and making own choices to live AND die by.
 Blame others vs self responsibility.
We don't trust ourselves.

The 3rd alternative eludes us, but is at least, gradually heading away from *kill and steal for prosperity* into "let's make a deal".

But, there are some traditions that have evolved into, 'Kill and steal for prosperity and blame the Jews/whites/Christians/doctors..whatever.. for our poverty because they don't do that and are rich" If they have it and we don't, they must have *somehow* stolen it because the only path to wealth we've ever seen was by theft and ransom...steal it back!
 *Force* all "thems" to make us happy, healthy and wealthy.
Good luck.

No one "makes" anyone take the Pharms poisons.
****WE**** don't trust ourselves to make decisions and live or die with the results.
 It's safer for "them" to be wrong.
So, when they ARE wrong, they get all the blame and we get to stay the helplessly innocent children we deny we are.
......and STILL not live forever.

OK, so I took an Tylenol PM and it got me run down by a bus.
 Danged Pharm wasn't paying attention to my beer consumption rate!  [LOL]
BAN BEER !!! Death to Jack Daniles? BAD headache pills! ..for a bad headache...picked my pocket and shoved em right down my throat, then re-scheduled that blasted bus.

Clue: You can walk your own path, but there are roots growing across it to stumble over.
 If you use a guide dog, then you can shoot the dog when you fall down.
Then, you can get another dog to shoot.
But its not long till the dogs want "Fancy Feast" before they take'll on that job.

Freedom is risky, no way around it.
Buying your way out of taking your own risks is expensive.

But the thang is:
 Death is inevitable and we aren't in charge of how and when.
We want to believe that putting someone else in charge of that will -Somehow- work better.
Then we get to whine about them not being able to do it any better than we can.
So, decide. [You cannot not decide, but you can deny you did.]
How much is complaining over this *how and when* vs that *how and when* , worth?

"That one" worth more?
Being an old worn out wreck in a hospital bed beats falling off a horse at 45?
Willing to trade freedom for the myth of security and blame a paid 'god' [guide dog] when a myth is still a myth?
 Fine.  Nothing wrong with it...just a choice that does what it does.

"It" in a nutshell...
Pay UP...or... take the risk yourself.
Or, do a bit of both.
It's YOU that decides.

The motto of the free:
"Today is a good day to die"
..when tomorrow never comes, it's just a bet to be hedged.
And at some unknowable point, the probabilities become certainties.
Insurance companies know that well and play you as "the house" making rules for you in your own casino with you pulling the one armed doctor/pharm cabal bandit, feeding it dollars in hopes of beating the odds.

 Face it.  You "might" be able to delay losing, but winning is impossible.
...and the longer you delay by using one armed bandits, the more painfully tired your arm gets...till finally, you can't move at all and wind up paying someone else to pull the lever.

Why is it that we're so afraid to go home when there is no other place to go?..and... pay other people to be afraid *for* us.
By golly, we're even afraid to be afraid.

Fact:  You gonna die and no one knows when.
So, how will you live?
Choose.
Like it or not, you do.
If you think you don't, you're wrong.......but you get to fight somebody who fights you for the same reason. And that "feels like" it's doing something, if, for no other reason....it's a lot of work...a struggle.
 A struggle in quick sand, that is.

ode

At 03:46 PM 5/27/2007 +0100, you wrote:

The trouble is, we seem to be going backwards instead of forwards, Ode. Look at all the old things our parents did and knew which most people consider 'old wives tales' a lot of which had basis in solid fact. Instead we prefer to take highly toxic drugs (because the doc gave them to us(!) ) and think all the old things were rubbish! Things like using EIS for instance. As for Next, who knows? Dee

-------Original Message-------

From: <mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com>Day Sutton
Date: 27/05/2007 14:43:07
To: <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Krishna


The tradition of exclusion, conquest and domination has had its day.
Next.

[Danged growing pains! ]

ode





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