Well I suppose if we all thought like that, then we wouldn't bother to make CS 
either!  There wouldn't be any point, because we could just go and take the 
anti-biotics the doctor gives us as they may or may not, kill us, but hey - who 
cares - we are going to die of something anyway!  dee

On 28 Feb 2010, at 15:05, Ode Coyote wrote:

> 
> 
> So how many benefited from Vioxx that may have died without it, compared to 
> those that died with it? [I dunno, but that's not the point]
> Absolutism is just not part of reality...there is never just one answer. [But 
> it does make self defense very expensive for a drug company when lawyers 
> prosecute on absolutist terms using absolutist juries ]
> The doctor is required to inform of risks...to the best of his knowledge.  
> Nothing is free of risk.  It's ALL "Relative risk vs probable benefit "
> 
> A doubled risk of heart attack, stroke and death persisted at least a year 
> after people stopped taking withdrawn painkiller Vioxx ..which means "what?  
> Double WHAT risk?
> Does that mean 1 in 10,000 turns into 2 in 10,000 ?
> 


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