Yes Jason,

Many thanks to Frank for making this book available. It is a most
interesting expose on the variability of product available on shop
shelves.

It would seem that many manufacturing processes leave much to be
desired. The inclusion of filter paper and other contaminants may be the
result of back yard operations and may be acceptable for personal use,
but this is questionable when supplying friends and associates and is
unacceptable when profiting from sale to the general public. No wonder
the FDA gets upset.

I doubt whether bio-burden tests, efficacy, concentration or particle
size tests are performed and available for many commercial colloidal
silvers. No doubt the cost of this testing is a reason why they are not
performed, and the results may require a complete reworking of the
generating and bottling process. But if I can do it, then so can any
one.

The testing procedure as detailed in the .pdf book is really an overview
of the contaminants found in a sample of available colloidal silvers and
the range of particle types and sizes also found therein. But the
selection method precludes a meaningful comparison of efficacy, and may
indeed select the most unreactive samples.

I too have found that filtering with coffee filters to be less than
ideal. These filters react with the CS and seem to be contaminated with
chemicals. Much better to use laboratory filter paper if filtering is
required.
I have built a stainless steel assembly (my background is in food and
pharmaceutical processing equipment) to house the 0.1micron filter that
I use in my commercial process. The CS flow is pressurised by an inert
gas, and the resultant colloid is then effectively filter sterilised.

Using a syringe is a novel method for retrieving the 'best' of the
batch, I have recommended syphoning to others in the past.
However, the CS produced by my small personal generators requires no
filtering.

Regards
Ivan.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Eaton" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, 31 December 2000 10:21
Subject: Re: CS>Free Book Available


> Yes, Frank, thanks for the .pdf book.  Some of the research described
was
> unique, and I enjoyed reading it.  Any plans to take those in vitro
studies
> to the human body?
>
> The research both confirmed and < apparently > refuted some personal
> experiences.  I'm particularly interesting in figuring out why a small
> dosage of colloidal silver ( nowhere NEAR a 1:1 CS/Bacteria ratio )
wiped
> out a life threatening  Psuedo & Staph infection ( septic & flesh
eating ).
> On the surface, the data regarding the AMOUNTS of colloidal silver in
> proportion to the colonies of bacteria is solid.  But I wonder:  What
might
> be the average percentage of bacteria that NEEDS to be eliminated in
order
> for the body's immune system to be able to handle an infection that it
had
> not been able to handle, and what might any variables be based upon?
>
> As far as the filtering goes?  I noticed a big drop in effectiveness
when
> filtering ( I used standard non-bleached coffee filters ).  I changed
to
> simply extracting the theoretical "best" colloidal silver in any batch
with
> a syringe, and using the rest for external applications.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Frank Key <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 9:26 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Free Book Available
>
>
> > Steve,
> >
> > There is no staff at the university continuing Ron's research. I
guess I
> am
> > the closest thing to meeting that definition, as I worked with Ron
from
> the
> > beginning on cs research. In fact, it was I who got Ron interested
in this
> > field of research in the first place.
> >
> > The "star" rating was an overall quality metric, not just
effectiveness.
> >
> > The contamination criteria was chosen by Ron as being indicative of
the
> > quality of a commercial product. A quality commercial product should
not
> have
> > any significant contamination. If it did, that was cause to be
dropped
> from
> > further consideration. The worst offender was the living bacteria
found in
> > some products sold as "silver protein" or "mild silver protein".
> >
> > If a home made batch of cs is contaminated, it is up to the user to
decide
> if
> > he wants to use it. As we learned from "Survivor", some folks are
> comfortable
> > eating living bugs and other criters.
> >
>
>
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