On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 11:05:23PM -0300, Lúcio de Souza Coelho wrote:

> >Check your energetics.  Asteroid mining is promising for space-based
> >construction.  Otherwise you'd better at least have controllable fusion
> >rockets.

It is quite useful to utilize space recources where they are,
because the hardware is there, and all you need is a high-bandwidth
link, or dropping a matter packet with data.

> (...)
> 
> Not really.
> 
> Elements that are incredibly rare on Earth - such as platinum group

Reasonably advanced nanotechnology (biological life) doesn't
use large quantities or rare elements. A lot of elements
people consider rare have actually quite nice crust abundancies,
but lack ores. If you have good enough enrichemnet, then 
everything is ore.

> metals - could be mined in asteroids and simply dropped into Earth in
> round-of-the-mill reentry capsules - and those would't even need
> rocketry tech beyond the current level. Take in consideration that
> even a few tonnes of platinum - well below the weight of the space
> shuttle - would be of immeasurable value.

Sure, and don't forget to add some hand mirrors, and glass pearls.
 
> As for "bulk" elements like iron, copper, nickel, etc, there are small
> asteroids - a few tens of meters in length - that could potentially
> have thousands of tons of those metals. My suggestion for that would

Why asteroids? The Moon is close enough, both in distance, and 
in terms of delta v.

> be a controlled crash - simply boost the asteroid (using a mass driver
> or whatever) to a trajectory where it will be aerobraked by Earth's
> upper atmosphere (preferably over the ocean to avoid hazardous
> hypersonic booms over populated areas) and then, stripped of most of
> its kinetic energy, crash in an uninhabited area. Probably the crash
> will still look like a small nuke, but then we devastate similarly
> larger areas for comparable gains (as in the case of hydroelectric
> plants or extensive surface mining). By the way, talking about mining
> on Earth, some of the ore deposits currently explored are in fact
> ancient asteroid crashes...

Good luck finding an insurer for that.
 
> Finally, in the long term space elevators may well be possible, and
> then the limitation of bringing raw materials from space to Earth will
> be similar to the limitation of moving materials between continents
> using ships.

Look into linear motors on Luna, topped off with rocket burn.

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