Looking at the analog gateways, DEC/SIP, and now possibly some wifi phones
(suddenly technology is appealing... go figure).

Thanks for everyone's input!

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Michael Picher <mpic...@gmail.com> wrote:

> this all is a little off topic...
>
> this guy has 2 phone lines and just needs a couple of cheap analog phones
> on them...
>
> get a couple gateways and be done with it...  in an environment like he's
> putting it in, keep it simple stu....
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Josh M. Patten 
> <jpat...@co.brazos.tx.us>wrote:
>
>>  You know I used to be a very active member of the trixbox community and
>> when I finally decided to leave it (about 3 months ago) I hadn't seen a
>> developer post in a really long time.
>>
>> It really is up to your preference what kind of open source PBX you decide
>> to start with. If you're familiar with Asterisk and would like a GUI on top
>> of it that can manage most of the operations of the system and you don't
>> need a redundant system or complete phone provisioning, then a FreePBX
>> system such as trixbox or Elastix is probably what you should use.
>>
>> If you want a system that has seamless integration of all components in a
>> clean UI and need some level of redundancy then sipX is more logical.
>>
>> If you want a system where the documentation is maintained by 1 or more
>> paid professional technical writers and if you find it all "too hard to
>> learn" contact a VAR to install a Cisco CallManager system.
>>
>> NO system is without gotchas and bugs. sipX moves at a very fast pace and
>> is a very complex piece of software so there will always be bugs or
>> workarounds and the documentation doesn't always keep up with changes to the
>> system. The fortunate thing about this project is that the developers are
>> almost always watching this list and if you've done your due diligence to
>> craft a mailing list post that details the problem you're having with
>> information that can help the developers, such as a snapshot, then there is
>> usually a fix available or something that can be done to work around your
>> problem, and if not you can file a bug report in the tracker that details
>> the problem so the developers can work on it.
>>
>> Or, if you're feeling adventurous you could help straighten out the
>> documentation by requesting rights to modify the wiki or even help with the
>> development of the project to help it suit your needs. Get involved in the
>> project and contribute what you can, when you can and you'll find that
>> you'll become a lot more familiar with sipX and understand why the system is
>> designed the way it is.
>>
>> In the world of open source software that costs nothing to download and
>> use, filing complaints gets nothing accomplished and serves no other purpose
>> than to discourage and enrage those that do contribute. Making constructive
>> suggestions and feature requests (which you did do to a small degree) goes a
>> lot further. Actually helping make those suggestions and feature requests a
>> reality by contributing to the project is what open source is all about.
>>
>>
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>> *From:* sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org [
>> sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] on behalf of Tim Ingalls [
>> t...@sharedcom.net]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:27 PM
>> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] Suggestions? sipX or not, and if not...
>>
>>
>> Michael Scheidell wrote:
>>
>> On 3/30/11 11:27 AM, Tim Ingalls wrote:
>>
>> Bluebox would be an improvement over Trixbox since its not using Asterisk
>> as the back-end.
>>
>> except BB is not freepbx+
>>
>>  I'm not sure what you mean. FreePBX is a front-end for Asterisk. When
>> they started to make FreePBX  4.0, they did it only for FreeSwitch, and they
>> renamed that project to Bluebox. So it's pretty much FreePBX for Freeswitch.
>>
>> instead of a user friendly gui (BB) for a phone system/pbx, its a GUI to
>> help you edit freeswitch xml files ..
>> there is a difference.
>>
>>  I'm not really seeing what the difference is. I found FreePBX an easier
>> GUI than sipXconfig. The Bluebox GUI doesn't look that different. I had
>> Trixbox set up in a week, but I'm still finding inconsistencies and glitches
>> with sipX that cause me problems 4 months into it. The sipX project has poor
>> documentation on the wiki that conflicts with itself in several places, is
>> out of date, or is incomplete. Supposedly the sipX book is the best way to
>> learn the system, but from my reading, it seems out of date and limited in
>> the details of how to set things up. The Web site has false statements about
>> the features sipX has (i.e., how redundant is HA mode, the fact that media
>> does in fact use the server in sipXbridge, etc.)
>>
>> I'm not trying to be a sipX hater, but it's definitely not an easy system
>> to learn and install if you are a newbie to the project. There seem to be
>> surprises around every corner. There is so much you don't understand if
>> you're new to sipXecs that you won't find out until you wade through 6+
>> months of sipx-user discussion list posts for the most common issues.
>>
>> I don't really see sipXecs as the best server for a small business to use.
>> It's too hard to learn and get right. Maybe if the learning curve were less
>> steep and the main bugs and limitations were communicated up front better,
>> someone getting involved in the project wouldn't get so frustrated. Some
>> instructional videos and tutorials would go a long way. Having a real user
>> forum (instead of a mailing list that also gets posted to the Web) that is
>> monitored by a commercial entity (like Trixbox is) would also have a big
>> impact, because it would be easier for newbies to ask questions and search
>> for answers.
>>
>>
>> support is only via IRC (if the single developer is on)
>>
>> good support when you get him, but unless you are a freeswitch expert,
>> don't try it.
>>
>>
>>  I haven't actually installed Bluebox (I'm doing it today), so I'll have
>> to trust you on the support issues.
>>
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