this all is a little off topic...

this guy has 2 phone lines and just needs a couple of cheap analog phones on
them...

get a couple gateways and be done with it...  in an environment like he's
putting it in, keep it simple stu....



On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Josh M. Patten <jpat...@co.brazos.tx.us>wrote:

>  You know I used to be a very active member of the trixbox community and
> when I finally decided to leave it (about 3 months ago) I hadn't seen a
> developer post in a really long time.
>
> It really is up to your preference what kind of open source PBX you decide
> to start with. If you're familiar with Asterisk and would like a GUI on top
> of it that can manage most of the operations of the system and you don't
> need a redundant system or complete phone provisioning, then a FreePBX
> system such as trixbox or Elastix is probably what you should use.
>
> If you want a system that has seamless integration of all components in a
> clean UI and need some level of redundancy then sipX is more logical.
>
> If you want a system where the documentation is maintained by 1 or more
> paid professional technical writers and if you find it all "too hard to
> learn" contact a VAR to install a Cisco CallManager system.
>
> NO system is without gotchas and bugs. sipX moves at a very fast pace and
> is a very complex piece of software so there will always be bugs or
> workarounds and the documentation doesn't always keep up with changes to the
> system. The fortunate thing about this project is that the developers are
> almost always watching this list and if you've done your due diligence to
> craft a mailing list post that details the problem you're having with
> information that can help the developers, such as a snapshot, then there is
> usually a fix available or something that can be done to work around your
> problem, and if not you can file a bug report in the tracker that details
> the problem so the developers can work on it.
>
> Or, if you're feeling adventurous you could help straighten out the
> documentation by requesting rights to modify the wiki or even help with the
> development of the project to help it suit your needs. Get involved in the
> project and contribute what you can, when you can and you'll find that
> you'll become a lot more familiar with sipX and understand why the system is
> designed the way it is.
>
> In the world of open source software that costs nothing to download and
> use, filing complaints gets nothing accomplished and serves no other purpose
> than to discourage and enrage those that do contribute. Making constructive
> suggestions and feature requests (which you did do to a small degree) goes a
> lot further. Actually helping make those suggestions and feature requests a
> reality by contributing to the project is what open source is all about.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org [
> sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] on behalf of Tim Ingalls [
> t...@sharedcom.net]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:27 PM
> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] Suggestions? sipX or not, and if not...
>
>
> Michael Scheidell wrote:
>
> On 3/30/11 11:27 AM, Tim Ingalls wrote:
>
> Bluebox would be an improvement over Trixbox since its not using Asterisk
> as the back-end.
>
> except BB is not freepbx+
>
>  I'm not sure what you mean. FreePBX is a front-end for Asterisk. When they
> started to make FreePBX  4.0, they did it only for FreeSwitch, and they
> renamed that project to Bluebox. So it's pretty much FreePBX for Freeswitch.
>
> instead of a user friendly gui (BB) for a phone system/pbx, its a GUI to
> help you edit freeswitch xml files ..
> there is a difference.
>
>  I'm not really seeing what the difference is. I found FreePBX an easier
> GUI than sipXconfig. The Bluebox GUI doesn't look that different. I had
> Trixbox set up in a week, but I'm still finding inconsistencies and glitches
> with sipX that cause me problems 4 months into it. The sipX project has poor
> documentation on the wiki that conflicts with itself in several places, is
> out of date, or is incomplete. Supposedly the sipX book is the best way to
> learn the system, but from my reading, it seems out of date and limited in
> the details of how to set things up. The Web site has false statements about
> the features sipX has (i.e., how redundant is HA mode, the fact that media
> does in fact use the server in sipXbridge, etc.)
>
> I'm not trying to be a sipX hater, but it's definitely not an easy system
> to learn and install if you are a newbie to the project. There seem to be
> surprises around every corner. There is so much you don't understand if
> you're new to sipXecs that you won't find out until you wade through 6+
> months of sipx-user discussion list posts for the most common issues.
>
> I don't really see sipXecs as the best server for a small business to use.
> It's too hard to learn and get right. Maybe if the learning curve were less
> steep and the main bugs and limitations were communicated up front better,
> someone getting involved in the project wouldn't get so frustrated. Some
> instructional videos and tutorials would go a long way. Having a real user
> forum (instead of a mailing list that also gets posted to the Web) that is
> monitored by a commercial entity (like Trixbox is) would also have a big
> impact, because it would be easier for newbies to ask questions and search
> for answers.
>
>
> support is only via IRC (if the single developer is on)
>
> good support when you get him, but unless you are a freeswitch expert,
> don't try it.
>
>
>  I haven't actually installed Bluebox (I'm doing it today), so I'll have to
> trust you on the support issues.
>
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