Well said, you definitely should have some basic background in TCP/IP routing to really understand MT. At first I was somewhat dependent on the GUI of Winbox, but I'm leaning more towards using the CLI now since I can get things done quicker that way, plus it's easy to SSH in and do things remotely rather than use Winbox.
As for support. Any question I've ever had (so far) has been answered in their manuals or FAQs on the Web site. Some things were hard to track down, but they were always there once I searched enough. Go MT! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > I'm not going to say anything about Brilan because I don't know about > it.. But.. Mikrotik is not a pain once you gotten the GUI up and > running it is very easy if you understand TCP/IP and routing. If you > don't know TCP/IP or routing then NO router os will be easy. > The CLI in MikroTik if you read over the manual and learn how it works > is actually very easy to work with. Any time you want to be given your > options hit tab twice type in next option then hit tab twice again and > you get the new options. It makes it really easy to do things without > knowing the commands or have a printed manual. > Winbox to me at least is very self explanatory. I can't say that about > the java stuff they had in 2.5 but 2.5 is years old. > > As for support MT might sometimes not be the quickest to answer and > sometimes I know they get very frustrated especially when the one > asking for support show a lack of understanding of TCP/IP and routing > (not saying you do) which understandable can be very frustrating > because at $45 you shouldn't expect a 101 lesson in TCP/IP or routing. > > Also there are other means of support. I offer paid support for MT if > you need help I'm more then willing to help you out (but for a fee of > course) and often if you buy the hardware from me and you need some > basic help and hand holding in getting started I will try my best to > help you going to certain limits. On a complete router that I sell for > $365 don't expect to get 3-5 hours of free technical support.. Sure If > I would sell the same unit for $995 then I would have no problem > throwing in 3-5 hours free technical support but now I sell it as > cheap as possible to make it as affordable unit for everyone. > > As for hopes v2.8 of MikroTik has very nice bw configuration one rule > for upload and download. Heck even 2.7 if you just want to bandwidth > limit a customer don't take anything extra. Just create one rule for > up and one for down. > For $45 you can hardly get much better. > > Best regards, > Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com > Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 > - Your Full Time Professionals - > eBay UserID : macahan > --- > searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. > http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ > -- > MM> Brilan is way easier to deal with althought the mikrotik has more features but > MM> Brilan will have the same by the end of the year. The brilan demo keep in mind > MM> only works for 2 hours then you have to reboot the box to get another 2 hours I > MM> found this out the hard way. It will not work well on those all in one machiens > MM> like HP, Compaq etc.. I had mine up and running in less then a 1/2 hour > MM> Miktorik is a pain in the ass to set up and maintain with the gui as well as > MM> without the command line interface.. and trying to get support forget ti I went > MM> 3 months postig to their mail forum trying to figure out how to do bridge mode > MM> and no one ever answered so I went to Brilan Tony is awesome and sometimes > MM> answers at wierd hours when you least expect it which is awesome.. > > > > > MM> You have to jump throug 3-4 hoops to make a bandwidth queue then mac > MM> autehntication is a pain then you haev to do several other thigns to throttle > MM> one customer where as brilan takes abotu 2 steps and takes me less then 2 min > MM> to configure a user.. > > > MM> Quoting Gloria Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> OK, can you help me figure out why the MikroTik router software I downloaded > >> and burned to CD won't load on the box we built for it? I have burned the CD > >> three times, downloaded the file twice, but it will not load. When I try to > >> boot from the CD, it comes up to the first line, something about loading a > >> kernel, then beeps and throws garbage on the screen that continues rolling > >> until you shut it off. We built a box with an ECS K7S5A mobo, 700 MHz AMD > >> proc, 3 GB HD, and standard AGP video card. Any ideas? I have been on the > >> air for over a month now with no bandwidth control, even though I am selling > >> tiered bandwidth, because I have not been able to get anything working. I > >> tried the BriLan demo and couldn't get it working, now the MikroTik won't > >> even load. > >> > >> Thanks for any help, > >> Gloria > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Kevin Summers > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:35 PM > >> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> > >> > >> The MikroTik router OS runs on just about any old PC you might > >> have laying around. Throw two network cards into it and you've got > >> a router. > >> Kevin Summers > >> KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >> www.kistech.com > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sevak Avakians > >> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:51 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> > >> > >> Hi Kevin, > >> > >> I've taken a look at MicroTik's website and it seems to be software that > >> runs on a desktop. Is this correct or is it a separate piece of hardware > >> similar to a Linksys or Cysco, etc. router? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Sevak > >> > >> On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 19:25, Kevin Summers wrote: > >> Actually it's just the PPTP and HotSpot clients that get the > >> DHCP addresses. PPPoE clients just get their assigned IP from > >> the PPPoE login. > >> > >> The MikroTik router actually handles the HotSpot login page. Through > >> the use of Firewall rules we've set things up to allow a link from > >> the HotSpot login page to a secure page on our web server so that > >> people can sign up. > >> > >> Kevin Summers > >> KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >> www.kistech.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Burgess > >> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:14 PM > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> > > >> > > >> > Kevin, > >> > > >> > Question, > >> > > >> > Why do you need to give your clients a DHCP IP ? The PPPOE does that > >> > already correct? Also, using the hotspot stuff, if a custoemer assoicates > >> > with one of my APs, could i setup a way so that they could only get to my > >> > webserver? or a speical page saying, you can get our signal ?? > >> > > >> > Dennis > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:23 PM > >> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > We're using the MikroTik Router OS for PPTP, PPPoE, and HotSpot > >> > > authentication using username and password. No WEP encryption on > >> > > any of the network. If it's so insecure, why take the performance > >> > > hit. Can't do WEP when doing HotSpot anyway... > >> > > > >> > > Radios and such are on private static IPs, customers get a private > >> > > DHCP IP until they log in, then they are given either their NATed > >> > > private DHCP IP, or their public static IP. > >> > > > >> > > Kevin Summers > >> > > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >> > > www.kistech.com > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rudolph Worrell > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:08 PM > >> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > How do you authenticate your customers? I am simply suing WEP and a > >> > DHCP > >> > > > server. > >> > > > > >> > > > How many IP's do you have in your IP pool? 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