There will be a new product out by the end of the year that will do this plus much more.
Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 908-996-7995 Fax: 908-847-0202 http://www.demarctech.com > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 1:40 AM > To: Joe Laura > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > > > IMO it is. > > Takes me less then 15minutes from a clean drive until I have > MikroTik installed and working (doing routing or masquerading). > > Does Brilan offer you ability to bandwidth limit peer to peer > networking traffic such as kazaa ? MikroTik 2.8 does give you > that option. This has been IMO a extremely big drawback with > MikroTik since when it come to peer to peer that is where you > really need it and all the peer to peer products out there > are really sneaky and if you block their default port they > will either start using port 80 or just start picking random > ports so the only way you can do bandwidth shaping on them is > by doing layer 7 filtering with signature recognition. > > Best regards, > Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com > Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 > - Your Full Time Professionals - > MikroTik OEM - online store http://www.fament.net/ > -- > JL> Why cant Mikrotik be as easy as Brilan is? I plugged my > first Brilan > JL> box in and I was up and going in literally 20 minutes. I > personally > JL> think Brilan rocks for bandwidth managment. JMO Superior Wireless > JL> New Orleans,La. > JL> www.superior1.com > JL> ----- Original Message ----- > JL> From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > JL> To: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > JL> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:51 PM > JL> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > > > >> I'm not going to say anything about Brilan because I don't > know about > >> it.. But.. Mikrotik is not a pain once you gotten the GUI up and > >> running it is very easy if you understand TCP/IP and > routing. If you > >> don't know TCP/IP or routing then NO router os will be > easy. The CLI > >> in MikroTik if you read over the manual and learn how it works is > >> actually very easy to work with. Any time you want to be > given your > >> options hit tab twice type in next option then hit tab twice again > >> and you get the new options. It makes it really easy to do things > >> without knowing the commands or have a printed manual. > Winbox to me > >> at least is very self explanatory. I can't say that about the java > >> stuff they had in 2.5 but 2.5 is years old. > >> > >> As for support MT might sometimes not be the quickest to > answer and > >> sometimes I know they get very frustrated especially when the one > >> asking for support show a lack of understanding of TCP/IP > and routing > >> (not saying you do) which understandable can be very frustrating > >> because at $45 you shouldn't expect a 101 lesson in TCP/IP or > >> routing. > >> > >> Also there are other means of support. I offer paid > support for MT if > >> you need help I'm more then willing to help you out (but > for a fee of > >> course) and often if you buy the hardware from me and you > need some > >> basic help and hand holding in getting started I will try > my best to > >> help you going to certain limits. On a complete router that I sell > >> for $365 don't expect to get 3-5 hours of free technical support.. > >> Sure If I would sell the same unit for $995 then I would have no > >> problem throwing in 3-5 hours free technical support but > now I sell > >> it as cheap as possible to make it as affordable unit for everyone. > >> > >> As for hopes v2.8 of MikroTik has very nice bw > configuration one rule > >> for upload and download. Heck even 2.7 if you just want to > bandwidth > >> limit a customer don't take anything extra. Just create > one rule for > >> up and one for down. For $45 you can hardly get much better. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com > >> Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 > >> - Your Full Time Professionals - > >> eBay UserID : macahan > >> --- > >> searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ > >> -- > >> MM> Brilan is way easier to deal with althought the > mikrotik has more > JL> features but > >> MM> Brilan will have the same by the end of the year. The > brilan demo > >> MM> keep > JL> in mind > >> MM> only works for 2 hours then you have to reboot the box to get > >> MM> another > JL> 2 hours I > >> MM> found this out the hard way. It will not work well on > those all > >> MM> in one > JL> machiens > >> MM> like HP, Compaq etc.. I had mine up and running in less then a > >> MM> 1/2 > JL> hour > >> MM> Miktorik is a pain in the ass to set up and maintain > with the gui > >> MM> as > JL> well as > >> MM> without the command line interface.. and trying to get support > >> MM> forget > JL> ti I went > >> MM> 3 months postig to their mail forum trying to figure > out how to > >> MM> do > JL> bridge mode > >> MM> and no one ever answered so I went to Brilan Tony is > awesome and > JL> sometimes > >> MM> answers at wierd hours when you least expect it which is > >> MM> awesome.. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> MM> You have to jump throug 3-4 hoops to make a bandwidth > queue then > >> MM> mac autehntication is a pain then you haev to do several other > >> MM> thigns to > JL> throttle > >> MM> one customer where as brilan takes abotu 2 steps and takes me > >> MM> less > JL> then 2 min > >> MM> to configure a user.. > >> > >> > >> MM> Quoting Gloria Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > >> >> OK, can you help me figure out why the MikroTik router > software I > JL> downloaded > >> >> and burned to CD won't load on the box we built for it? I have > >> >> burned > JL> the CD > >> >> three times, downloaded the file twice, but it will not load. > >> >> When I > JL> try to > >> >> boot from the CD, it comes up to the first line, something about > JL> loading a > >> >> kernel, then beeps and throws garbage on the screen > that continues > JL> rolling > >> >> until you shut it off. We built a box with an ECS > K7S5A mobo, 700 > >> >> MHz > JL> AMD > >> >> proc, 3 GB HD, and standard AGP video card. Any ideas? I have > >> >> been on > JL> the > >> >> air for over a month now with no bandwidth control, > even though I > >> >> am > JL> selling > >> >> tiered bandwidth, because I have not been able to get anything > >> >> working. > JL> I > >> >> tried the BriLan demo and couldn't get it working, now the > >> >> MikroTik > JL> won't > >> >> even load. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks for any help, > >> >> Gloria > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: Kevin Summers > >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:35 PM > >> >> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> The MikroTik router OS runs on just about any old PC you might > >> >> have laying around. Throw two network cards into it > and you've got > >> >> a router. > >> >> Kevin Summers > >> >> KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >> >> www.kistech.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Sevak Avakians > >> >> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:51 PM > >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Hi Kevin, > >> >> > >> >> I've taken a look at MicroTik's website and it seems to be > >> >> software > JL> that > >> >> runs on a desktop. Is this correct or is it a separate piece of > JL> hardware > >> >> similar to a Linksys or Cysco, etc. router? > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> Sevak > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 19:25, Kevin Summers wrote: Actually > >> >> it's just the PPTP and HotSpot clients that get the DHCP > >> >> addresses. PPPoE clients just get their assigned IP > from the PPPoE > >> >> login. > >> >> > >> >> The MikroTik router actually handles the HotSpot login page. > >> >> Through the use of Firewall rules we've set things up > to allow a > >> >> link from the HotSpot login page to a secure page on our web > >> >> server so that people can sign up. > >> >> > >> >> Kevin Summers > >> >> KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >> >> www.kistech.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- > >> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis > >> >> > Burgess > >> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:14 PM > >> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Kevin, > >> >> > > >> >> > Question, > >> >> > > >> >> > Why do you need to give your clients a DHCP IP ? The > PPPOE does > >> >> > that already correct? Also, using the hotspot stuff, if a > >> >> > custoemer > JL> assoicates > >> >> > with one of my APs, could i setup a way so that they > could only > >> >> > get > JL> to my > >> >> > webserver? or a speical page saying, you can get our > signal ?? > >> >> > > >> >> > Dennis > >> >> > > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:23 PM > >> >> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > We're using the MikroTik Router OS for PPTP, PPPoE, and > >> >> > > HotSpot authentication using username and password. No WEP > >> >> > > encryption on any of the network. If it's so insecure, why > >> >> > > take the performance hit. Can't do WEP when doing HotSpot > >> >> > > anyway... > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Radios and such are on private static IPs, customers get a > >> >> > > private DHCP IP until they log in, then they are > given either > >> >> > > their NATed private DHCP IP, or their public static IP. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Kevin Summers > >> >> > > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >> >> > > www.kistech.com > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of Rudolph > JL> Worrell > >> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:08 PM > >> >> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > How do you authenticate your customers? I am > simply suing > >> >> > > > WEP > JL> and a > >> >> > DHCP > >> >> > > > server. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > How many IP's do you have in your IP pool? I > have 1000 but > >> >> > > > I am not sure it will be enough when I get up to > about 250 > >> >> > > > customers. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > I use a separate IP scheme for the CPE and backhuals and > >> >> > > > this > JL> works > >> >> > fine. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Anyone else doing this? > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > -- > >> >> > > > Rudolph Worrell > >> >> > > > President > >> >> > > > Phone:(540)664-3950 > >> >> > > > Fax:(270)458-6431 > >> >> > > > www.wave2net.com > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > >> >> > > > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > >> >> > > > Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > >> >> > > > http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >> >> > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > >> >> > > > subscribe smartBridges 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