Eje As this OS is not Linux the development time is longer as all the code needs to be written from the ground up, and on this "upgrade" they are writing the new real-time OS almost from scratch which will allow them to take full advantage of new features etc. So while its quite now in the coming months things will start to move quickly.
Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 908-996-7995 Fax: 908-847-0202 http://www.demarctech.com > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:19 AM > To: tonylist > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > > > That is a long time until then. I and I think MikroTik is > late in bringing this to us. > > Best regards, > Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com > Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 > - Your Full Time Professionals - > eBay UserID : macahan > --- > searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. > http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ > -- > t> There will be a new product out by the end of the year > that will do > t> this plus much more. > > t> Sincerely, Tony Morella > t> Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider > t> Office: 908-996-7995 Fax: 908-847-0202 > t> http://www.demarctech.com > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson > >> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 1:40 AM > >> To: Joe Laura > >> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> > >> > >> IMO it is. > >> > >> Takes me less then 15minutes from a clean drive until I have > >> MikroTik installed and working (doing routing or masquerading). > >> > >> Does Brilan offer you ability to bandwidth limit peer to peer > >> networking traffic such as kazaa ? MikroTik 2.8 does give you > >> that option. This has been IMO a extremely big drawback with > >> MikroTik since when it come to peer to peer that is where you > >> really need it and all the peer to peer products out there > >> are really sneaky and if you block their default port they > >> will either start using port 80 or just start picking random > >> ports so the only way you can do bandwidth shaping on them is > >> by doing layer 7 filtering with signature recognition. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com > >> Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 > >> - Your Full Time Professionals - > >> MikroTik OEM - online store http://www.fament.net/ > >> -- > >> JL> Why cant Mikrotik be as easy as Brilan is? I plugged my > >> first Brilan > >> JL> box in and I was up and going in literally 20 minutes. I > >> personally > >> JL> think Brilan rocks for bandwidth managment. JMO > Superior Wireless > >> JL> New Orleans,La. > >> JL> www.superior1.com > >> JL> ----- Original Message ----- > >> JL> From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> JL> To: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> JL> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:51 PM > >> JL> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> > >> > >> >> I'm not going to say anything about Brilan because I don't > >> know about > >> >> it.. But.. Mikrotik is not a pain once you gotten the > GUI up and > >> >> running it is very easy if you understand TCP/IP and > >> routing. If you > >> >> don't know TCP/IP or routing then NO router os will be > >> easy. The CLI > >> >> in MikroTik if you read over the manual and learn how > it works is > >> >> actually very easy to work with. Any time you want to be > >> given your > >> >> options hit tab twice type in next option then hit tab > twice again > >> >> and you get the new options. It makes it really easy to > do things > >> >> without knowing the commands or have a printed manual. > >> Winbox to me > >> >> at least is very self explanatory. I can't say that > about the java > >> >> stuff they had in 2.5 but 2.5 is years old. > >> >> > >> >> As for support MT might sometimes not be the quickest to > >> answer and > >> >> sometimes I know they get very frustrated especially > when the one > >> >> asking for support show a lack of understanding of TCP/IP > >> and routing > >> >> (not saying you do) which understandable can be very > frustrating > >> >> because at $45 you shouldn't expect a 101 lesson in TCP/IP or > >> >> routing. > >> >> > >> >> Also there are other means of support. I offer paid > >> support for MT if > >> >> you need help I'm more then willing to help you out (but > >> for a fee of > >> >> course) and often if you buy the hardware from me and you > >> need some > >> >> basic help and hand holding in getting started I will try > >> my best to > >> >> help you going to certain limits. On a complete router > that I sell > >> >> for $365 don't expect to get 3-5 hours of free > technical support.. > >> >> Sure If I would sell the same unit for $995 then I > would have no > >> >> problem throwing in 3-5 hours free technical support but > >> now I sell > >> >> it as cheap as possible to make it as affordable unit > for everyone. > >> >> > >> >> As for hopes v2.8 of MikroTik has very nice bw > >> configuration one rule > >> >> for upload and download. Heck even 2.7 if you just want to > >> bandwidth > >> >> limit a customer don't take anything extra. Just create > >> one rule for > >> >> up and one for down. For $45 you can hardly get much better. > >> >> > >> >> Best regards, > >> >> Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com > >> >> Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 > >> >> - Your Full Time Professionals - > >> >> eBay UserID : macahan > >> >> --- > >> >> searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. > >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ > >> >> -- > >> >> MM> Brilan is way easier to deal with althought the > >> mikrotik has more > >> JL> features but > >> >> MM> Brilan will have the same by the end of the year. The > >> brilan demo > >> >> MM> keep > >> JL> in mind > >> >> MM> only works for 2 hours then you have to reboot the > box to get > >> >> MM> another > >> JL> 2 hours I > >> >> MM> found this out the hard way. It will not work well on > >> those all > >> >> MM> in one > >> JL> machiens > >> >> MM> like HP, Compaq etc.. I had mine up and running in > less then a > >> >> MM> 1/2 > >> JL> hour > >> >> MM> Miktorik is a pain in the ass to set up and maintain > >> with the gui > >> >> MM> as > >> JL> well as > >> >> MM> without the command line interface.. and trying to > get support > >> >> MM> forget > >> JL> ti I went > >> >> MM> 3 months postig to their mail forum trying to figure > >> out how to > >> >> MM> do > >> JL> bridge mode > >> >> MM> and no one ever answered so I went to Brilan Tony is > >> awesome and > >> JL> sometimes > >> >> MM> answers at wierd hours when you least expect it which is > >> >> MM> awesome.. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> MM> You have to jump throug 3-4 hoops to make a bandwidth > >> queue then > >> >> MM> mac autehntication is a pain then you haev to do > several other > >> >> MM> thigns to > >> JL> throttle > >> >> MM> one customer where as brilan takes abotu 2 steps > and takes me > >> >> MM> less > >> JL> then 2 min > >> >> MM> to configure a user.. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> MM> Quoting Gloria Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> > >> >> >> OK, can you help me figure out why the MikroTik router > >> software I > >> JL> downloaded > >> >> >> and burned to CD won't load on the box we built for > it? I have > >> >> >> burned > >> JL> the CD > >> >> >> three times, downloaded the file twice, but it will > not load. > >> >> >> When I > >> JL> try to > >> >> >> boot from the CD, it comes up to the first line, > something about > >> JL> loading a > >> >> >> kernel, then beeps and throws garbage on the screen > >> that continues > >> JL> rolling > >> >> >> until you shut it off. We built a box with an ECS > >> K7S5A mobo, 700 > >> >> >> MHz > >> JL> AMD > >> >> >> proc, 3 GB HD, and standard AGP video card. Any > ideas? I have > >> >> >> been on > >> JL> the > >> >> >> air for over a month now with no bandwidth control, > >> even though I > >> >> >> am > >> JL> selling > >> >> >> tiered bandwidth, because I have not been able to > get anything > >> >> >> working. > >> JL> I > >> >> >> tried the BriLan demo and couldn't get it working, now the > >> >> >> MikroTik > >> JL> won't > >> >> >> even load. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Thanks for any help, > >> >> >> Gloria > >> >> >> > >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >> From: Kevin Summers > >> >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:35 PM > >> >> >> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> The MikroTik router OS runs on just about any old > PC you might > >> >> >> have laying around. Throw two network cards into it > >> and you've got > >> >> >> a router. > >> >> >> Kevin Summers > >> >> >> KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >> >> >> www.kistech.com > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > >> Sevak Avakians > >> >> >> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:51 PM > >> >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Hi Kevin, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I've taken a look at MicroTik's website and it > seems to be > >> >> >> software > >> JL> that > >> >> >> runs on a desktop. Is this correct or is it a > separate piece of > >> JL> hardware > >> >> >> similar to a Linksys or Cysco, etc. router? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Thanks, > >> >> >> Sevak > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 19:25, Kevin Summers > wrote: Actually > >> >> >> it's just the PPTP and HotSpot clients that get the DHCP > >> >> >> addresses. PPPoE clients just get their assigned IP > >> from the PPPoE > >> >> >> login. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> The MikroTik router actually handles the HotSpot login page. > >> >> >> Through the use of Firewall rules we've set things up > >> to allow a > >> >> >> link from the HotSpot login page to a secure page on our web > >> >> >> server so that people can sign up. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Kevin Summers > >> >> >> KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >> >> >> www.kistech.com > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- > >> >> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis > >> >> >> > Burgess > >> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:14 PM > >> >> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Kevin, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Question, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Why do you need to give your clients a DHCP IP ? The > >> PPPOE does > >> >> >> > that already correct? Also, using the hotspot stuff, if a > >> >> >> > custoemer > >> JL> assoicates > >> >> >> > with one of my APs, could i setup a way so that they > >> could only > >> >> >> > get > >> JL> to my > >> >> >> > webserver? or a speical page saying, you can get our > >> signal ?? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Dennis > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >> > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:23 PM > >> >> >> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > We're using the MikroTik Router OS for PPTP, PPPoE, and > >> >> >> > > HotSpot authentication using username and > password. No WEP > >> >> >> > > encryption on any of the network. If it's so > insecure, why > >> >> >> > > take the performance hit. Can't do WEP when > doing HotSpot > >> >> >> > > anyway... > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > Radios and such are on private static IPs, > customers get a > >> >> >> > > private DHCP IP until they log in, then they are > >> given either > >> >> >> > > their NATed private DHCP IP, or their public static IP. > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > Kevin Summers > >> >> >> > > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >> >> >> > > www.kistech.com > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> >> >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > >> Of Rudolph > >> JL> Worrell > >> >> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:08 PM > >> >> >> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >> > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > How do you authenticate your customers? I am > >> simply suing > >> >> >> > > > WEP > >> JL> and a > >> >> >> > DHCP > >> >> >> > > > server. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > How many IP's do you have in your IP pool? I > >> have 1000 but > >> >> >> > > > I am not sure it will be enough when I get up to > >> about 250 > >> >> >> > > > customers. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > I use a separate IP scheme for the CPE and > backhuals and > >> >> >> > > > this > >> JL> works > >> >> >> > fine. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > Anyone else doing this? > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > -- > >> >> >> > > > Rudolph Worrell > >> >> >> > > > President > >> >> >> > > > Phone:(540)664-3950 > >> >> >> > > > Fax:(270)458-6431 > >> >> >> > > > www.wave2net.com > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> > > > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > >> >> >> > > > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > >> >> >> > > > Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > >> >> >> > > > http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >> >> >> > > > To 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