Why cant Mikrotik be as easy as Brilan is? I plugged my first Brilan box in and I was up and going in literally 20 minutes. I personally think Brilan rocks for bandwidth managment. JMO Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication
> I'm not going to say anything about Brilan because I don't know about > it.. But.. Mikrotik is not a pain once you gotten the GUI up and > running it is very easy if you understand TCP/IP and routing. If you > don't know TCP/IP or routing then NO router os will be easy. > The CLI in MikroTik if you read over the manual and learn how it works > is actually very easy to work with. Any time you want to be given your > options hit tab twice type in next option then hit tab twice again and > you get the new options. It makes it really easy to do things without > knowing the commands or have a printed manual. > Winbox to me at least is very self explanatory. I can't say that about > the java stuff they had in 2.5 but 2.5 is years old. > > As for support MT might sometimes not be the quickest to answer and > sometimes I know they get very frustrated especially when the one > asking for support show a lack of understanding of TCP/IP and routing > (not saying you do) which understandable can be very frustrating > because at $45 you shouldn't expect a 101 lesson in TCP/IP or routing. > > Also there are other means of support. I offer paid support for MT if > you need help I'm more then willing to help you out (but for a fee of > course) and often if you buy the hardware from me and you need some > basic help and hand holding in getting started I will try my best to > help you going to certain limits. On a complete router that I sell for > $365 don't expect to get 3-5 hours of free technical support.. Sure If > I would sell the same unit for $995 then I would have no problem > throwing in 3-5 hours free technical support but now I sell it as > cheap as possible to make it as affordable unit for everyone. > > As for hopes v2.8 of MikroTik has very nice bw configuration one rule > for upload and download. Heck even 2.7 if you just want to bandwidth > limit a customer don't take anything extra. Just create one rule for > up and one for down. > For $45 you can hardly get much better. > > Best regards, > Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com > Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 > - Your Full Time Professionals - > eBay UserID : macahan > --- > searchable smartBridges mailing list archive. > http://www.mail-archive.com/smartbridges40part-15.org/ > -- > MM> Brilan is way easier to deal with althought the mikrotik has more features but > MM> Brilan will have the same by the end of the year. The brilan demo keep in mind > MM> only works for 2 hours then you have to reboot the box to get another 2 hours I > MM> found this out the hard way. It will not work well on those all in one machiens > MM> like HP, Compaq etc.. I had mine up and running in less then a 1/2 hour > MM> Miktorik is a pain in the ass to set up and maintain with the gui as well as > MM> without the command line interface.. and trying to get support forget ti I went > MM> 3 months postig to their mail forum trying to figure out how to do bridge mode > MM> and no one ever answered so I went to Brilan Tony is awesome and sometimes > MM> answers at wierd hours when you least expect it which is awesome.. > > > > > MM> You have to jump throug 3-4 hoops to make a bandwidth queue then mac > MM> autehntication is a pain then you haev to do several other thigns to throttle > MM> one customer where as brilan takes abotu 2 steps and takes me less then 2 min > MM> to configure a user.. > > > MM> Quoting Gloria Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> OK, can you help me figure out why the MikroTik router software I downloaded > >> and burned to CD won't load on the box we built for it? I have burned the CD > >> three times, downloaded the file twice, but it will not load. When I try to > >> boot from the CD, it comes up to the first line, something about loading a > >> kernel, then beeps and throws garbage on the screen that continues rolling > >> until you shut it off. We built a box with an ECS K7S5A mobo, 700 MHz AMD > >> proc, 3 GB HD, and standard AGP video card. Any ideas? I have been on the > >> air for over a month now with no bandwidth control, even though I am selling > >> tiered bandwidth, because I have not been able to get anything working. I > >> tried the BriLan demo and couldn't get it working, now the MikroTik won't > >> even load. > >> > >> Thanks for any help, > >> Gloria > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Kevin Summers > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:35 PM > >> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> > >> > >> The MikroTik router OS runs on just about any old PC you might > >> have laying around. Throw two network cards into it and you've got > >> a router. > >> Kevin Summers > >> KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >> www.kistech.com > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sevak Avakians > >> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:51 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> > >> > >> Hi Kevin, > >> > >> I've taken a look at MicroTik's website and it seems to be software that > >> runs on a desktop. Is this correct or is it a separate piece of hardware > >> similar to a Linksys or Cysco, etc. router? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Sevak > >> > >> On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 19:25, Kevin Summers wrote: > >> Actually it's just the PPTP and HotSpot clients that get the > >> DHCP addresses. PPPoE clients just get their assigned IP from > >> the PPPoE login. > >> > >> The MikroTik router actually handles the HotSpot login page. Through > >> the use of Firewall rules we've set things up to allow a link from > >> the HotSpot login page to a secure page on our web server so that > >> people can sign up. > >> > >> Kevin Summers > >> KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >> www.kistech.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Burgess > >> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:14 PM > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> > > >> > > >> > Kevin, > >> > > >> > Question, > >> > > >> > Why do you need to give your clients a DHCP IP ? The PPPOE does that > >> > already correct? Also, using the hotspot stuff, if a custoemer assoicates > >> > with one of my APs, could i setup a way so that they could only get to my > >> > webserver? or a speical page saying, you can get our signal ?? > >> > > >> > Dennis > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:23 PM > >> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > We're using the MikroTik Router OS for PPTP, PPPoE, and HotSpot > >> > > authentication using username and password. No WEP encryption on > >> > > any of the network. If it's so insecure, why take the performance > >> > > hit. Can't do WEP when doing HotSpot anyway... > >> > > > >> > > Radios and such are on private static IPs, customers get a private > >> > > DHCP IP until they log in, then they are given either their NATed > >> > > private DHCP IP, or their public static IP. > >> > > > >> > > Kevin Summers > >> > > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >> > > www.kistech.com > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rudolph Worrell > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:08 PM > >> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Client Authentication > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > How do you authenticate your customers? I am simply suing WEP and a > >> > DHCP > >> > > > server. > >> > > > > >> > > > How many IP's do you have in your IP pool? I have 1000 but I am > >> > > > not sure it > >> > > > will be enough when I get up to about 250 customers. > >> > > > > >> > > > I use a separate IP scheme for the CPE and backhuals and this works > >> > fine. > >> > > > > >> > > > Anyone else doing this? > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > -- > >> > > > Rudolph Worrell > >> > > > President > >> > > > Phone:(540)664-3950 > >> > > > Fax:(270)458-6431 > >> > > > www.wave2net.com > >> > > > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------- > >> > > > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > >> > > > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > >> > > > Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > >> > > > http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > >> > > > > >> > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >> > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >> > > > smartBridges <yournickname> > >> > > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > >> > > > unsubscribe smartBridges) > >> > > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > >> > > > >> > > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > >> > > Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > >> > > http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > >> > > > >> > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >> > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >> > smartBridges <yournickname> > >> > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > >> > smartBridges) > >> > > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > >> > Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > >> > http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > >> > > >> > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >> > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >> > smartBridges <yournickname> > >> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > >> > unsubscribe smartBridges) > >> > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > >> ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > >> Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > >> http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > >> > >> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges > >> <yournickname> > >> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > >> smartBridges) > >> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > >> > >> > > > MM> Martin Moreno > MM> Blazen Wireless > MM> 909-907-4106 > MM> www.blazenwireless.com > MM> ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > MM> Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > MM> http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > > MM> The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > MM> To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > MM> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > MM> Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > -- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- > Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV > http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > ----------ANNOUNCEMENT---------- Don't forget to register for WISPCON IV http://www.wispcon.info/us/wispcon-iv/wispcon-iv.htm The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
