Yes that's correct, except the curves weren't lost actually, rather the scene information was formatted with an error or omitted something very simple. All you had to do was edit the file and reformat the description to remove the error and....hows it they used to say....voila!...the scene would open intact just the way you saved it. I recall discovering the flaw when comparing the failed scene description with one of the default sample scenes. -- Joey Ponthieux LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES) Mymic Technical Services NASA Langley Research Center __________________________________________________ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Fortin Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 4:12 PM To: softimage Subject: Re: Friday Flashback #142 Hehehe I remember loosing all animation curves every time I exited the program! On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Eric Lampi <ericla...@gmail.com<mailto:ericla...@gmail.com>> wrote: The other thing about it that was awesome was the fact that if you stopped the render and started it again where you left off, the simulation would not be the same. You had to render start to finish in one go. Eric Freelance 3D and VFX animator http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] <j.ponthi...@nasa.gov<mailto:j.ponthi...@nasa.gov>> wrote: There was a fatal flaw in the way that the particle scene was saved. Even on SGI. You could start a new scene, build something and it would work perfectly until you saved it and closed it. The next time you reopened it, it became buggy and unstable. I can't recall what the specifics of the flaw was anymore, I just know that I got so good at hacking the saved files to correct the flaw it became a routine activity. For its day, it was quite useful and it holds a nostalgic appeal. But looking at it in retrospect to ICE, I'd never want to go back to using it. -- Joey Ponthieux LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES) Mymic Technical Services NASA Langley Research Center __________________________________________________ Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of Matt Lind Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 2:59 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #142 It started on SGI with Softimage|3D v3.0 (1995) and was later ported to Windows NT along with Softimage|3D v3.51 (1996) The SGI version was pretty stable. I personally didn't have issues with crashes on windows NT, but I also had a good Intergraph and/or 3DLabs Oxygen series card at the time. Intergraph was the king of the windows field until Intel screwed them over. 3DLabs worked really hard at providing good drivers and/or frequent updates. Maxon, Elsa, Matrox, ATI, and the other brands didn't do a very good job with drivers and seemed to focus more on the texture fill aspect for video and games. Anybody that made good cards back then usually had to do some proprietary hardware and drivers to get around windows' lack of graphics infrastructure. Anybody remember the SGI windows workstations? Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 11:47 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #142 Fast and interactive yes, but it crashed a lot, didn't it? I'm curious, in 1998 I was a student learning Softimage|3D and the standalone particle system was really hard to use because of that. I remember saving my particle scene every 5 minutes. Maybe it was a driver/system/graphics cards issue back then. I was on NT back then. Did the particle standalone also exists on SGI? From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 8:33 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #142 I remember the system being very fast and interactive compared to softimage|3D, but yeah, PITA to have to composite everything. The manipulators for SI Particle were actually pretty nice and intuitive. They needed to be as the software lacked the mouse driven manipulation found in most 3d packages. Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jeff McFall Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 11:29 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Subject: RE: Friday Flashback #142 I remember that. I was sooo looking forward to having a particle system again after moving from a Wavefront system. It wasn't quite what I had hoped for but way better than nothing and I was able to make a lot of use it. Kind of ironic about how Soft was NOT known for its "Particle System" capabilities back then. I like this quote Render the particle animation. Then composite the particle animation using the depth information from the z-channel of the SOFTIMAGE 3D rendered images to create seamless three-dimensional animation with a particle effect." That was fine if you did not mind a fully aliased comp :) Not to mention that I only had about a 500 MB hard drive if I remember correctly... Those Zpics were kind of heavy for the time and with that size of storage. Jeff From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Blair Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 11:17 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Subject: Friday Flashback #142 Friday Flashback #142 SOFTIMAGE|PARTICLE http://wp.me/powV4-2Sk
