Hi Andy, cant agree more with your very elaborate email, thanks for
taking the time so sum it up...
In regards to your loose suggestion of collaborating on developing
future FE based solutions we at Sehsucht in Hamburg are more than
interested at this point...
Cheers, Daniel
On 04/03/2014 22:52, Andy Jones wrote:
Many studios having the same problems at the same time is a HUGE
opportunity if we leverage it properly.
I completely agree about the collaboration that will be necessary from
users. However, for studios' part, I know a lot of places are
interested in Fabric already, even if they haven't actually bought
licenses yet. So if part of the incentive was some kind of agreement
for the FE guys to help nurture a scene assembly tool to life quickly,
it might help tip the scale for whatever cost/benefit analysis places
are doing. The devs working on Fabric are truly some of the best in
the world (and from what I understand, a big part of the reason AD
bought Softimage to begin with). They are a big part of the equation
for what will happen in the future, even if they don't end up wanting
to build a scene assembler as a supported "product" in itself (or who
knows -- maybe they will?).
It would be great to get a little (or big?) list of studios that are
interested in this sort of project (or other ones) and possibly have
some kind of summit with the FE guys about what it would take to
fast-track FE into certain critical areas of production, assuming a
certain number of licenses were purchased. No commitments at this
point -- just a list of interested parties who might be curious enough
to be part of the conversation, pending whatever other conversations
need to be had with superiors. I.e., it's understood that nobody is
speaking for their companies at this point. Just indicating that they
think their company *might* be interested.
I'll start:
Psyop
Massmarket
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Felix Geremus
<felixgere...@googlemail.com <mailto:felixgere...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
You are probably right. But these times are a little bit different
and maybe that's exactly the one chance inside all this mess.
We're all sitting in the same boat at the same time. I know a lot
of studios who entirely rely on Softimage for lighting. All of
these will have to spend time and thus money to move on to another
pipeline during the next two years anyway. So why not invest at
least parts of this time into the same thing? Individuals are
great, and the community should absolutely try. But it's so hard
to put something like this together in your spare time. A few
studios supporting and profiting from this effort would accelerate
the whole process immensely. And about showing potential: wasn't
Stage, and all the other fabric applications build for exactly
this reason? To show the potential of such a project?
2014-03-04 21:55 GMT+01:00 Steven Caron <car...@gmail.com
<mailto:car...@gmail.com>>:
it is a bit harder for visual effects vendors/studios, in an
already difficult market, spending money on software
development (not their core business) is a hard sell. seeing a
product or product in development on the other hand drums up
interest which leads to real investment and collaboration.
they need to see if their ideas are aligned with others on the
project. don't take my comment as discouragement, it is just
how i see it... for now it will be on individuals to come
together on a project which shows potential. i hope we, the
remaining softimage community, can do that together. again,
not discouragement to any studio which wants to partner to
make something happen...
steven
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Felix Geremus
<felixgere...@googlemail.com
<mailto:felixgere...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
So now that Softimage will be gone, isn't there room or
even need for collaboration here? Before everybody tries
to build something themselves, shouldn't people try to
bundle forces? And I'm not only talking about individuals
here. I'm talking about small to medium size companies who
couldn't afford to build something like this alone.
