Since you seem to be caught. If this system isn't exterior of a building,
there should be a slightly higher temp maintained even in an ventilated
attic space, which perhaps the Mech. Engineer can help you with since they
do the heat loss calc's for the envelope. It might just be enough to make it
work. 

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



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SET
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:07 PM
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Subject: viscosities

Ok..another viscosity question.
 
When using HydraCalc to calculate antifreeze systems using the Darcy method,
it asks for viscosities of solutions.  I have a data sheet with the
viscosities at various concentrations and various temperatures.  My question
is, do you use the average daily minimum temperature for an area, or the
extreme daily minimum for an area?  For this particular project, the
difference is 40°F in the 2 temperatures.  With the average daily minimum
temperature, the system works with the available pressure.  With the extreme
daily minimum, the city supply is not even close.  There is a 100+ psi swing
in the demands.  
 
So, do we go with average minimums, or extreme minimums?
 
There is always the option to go to a dry system, but the increased design
areas and reduced c factor will also force a pump on this project.  An
anti-freeze system at average daily minimum works without a fire pump.
However, we don't want to design/install an inadequate system.
 
 
Please feel free to call if you have any questions or comments.
 
Travis Mack, SET
MFP Design, LLC
2508 E Lodgepole Dr
Gilbert, AZ 85298
480-505-9271
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