Remember, that for it to be considered a ground, NFPA #70 requires 10' of
continuous cover on the pipe. If it is plastic, such as the run up to the
stub on most sprinkler systems, then this will not meet the definition.

R/

Matt

Matthew J. Willis
Norred Fire Systems L.L.C.
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Drucker
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: FW: Grounding, Bonding and Sprinkler Piping

Ed,

In my professional opinion I would say the riser after any backflow
devices, fire pumps, alarm and check valves, i.e. items that are
expected to be removed for repair or replacement, however the code does
not stipulate this.  In all cases the electrical engineer and local
inspector are to be consulted.

Hope that helps.

John Drucker

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Vining
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: FW: Grounding, Bonding and Sprinkler Piping

John, what do you consider an appropriate place(s) to connect the
sprinkler piping to ensure a reliable connection to ground?  Just
connecting it to the nearest piece of metal might not suffice.
.
Ed Vining


On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:48 AM, John Drucker
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Subject:   Grounding, Bonding and Sprinkler Piping
>
>
> >From an industry forum list (AFAA Firealarm). Apparently NFPA-25
> inspectors
> (contractors) are either removing the bonding connection and or noting

> it as a violation................................
>
> John
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
>
> From: John Drucker <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [firealarm] Ground Rod Questions
>
> All interior water piping within a building, including metallic fire
> sprinkler piping is required to be bonded pursuant to 2008 NEC
> 250.104(A)(B)
> .
>
> Failure to bond a metallic piping system could result in the piping
> system becoming energized with the potential of shock or
> electrocution. Bonding merely places all metallic components within a
> building at equipotential.These components, water piping, gas piping,
> building steel, etc are bonded (electrically connected together) to
the electrical system.
> A
> properly bonded system assures a low impedance electrical path exists
> should a fault occur producing the needed fault current in order to
> operate a circuits overcurrent device thus clearing the fault by
> deenergizing the circuit.
>
> Grounding on the other hand is the connection of the buildings
> electrical system to earth in order to dissipate lighting, transients
> and stabilize system voltage. Grounding is not Bonding. The sprinkler
> piping prohibition applies to the use of fire sprinkler piping as a
> Grounding electrode. Its important that we not remove bonding jumpers
> from aboveground fire sprinkler piping. If you're not sure consult
> with your electrical inspector. In the end it might just save
> someone's life !
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John Drucker
>
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