I have seen PVC come out the ground to from 6" to 12" with a steel
sleeve fully encasing it and providing a form to pour the slab against
providing the 2" all around clearance.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:46 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ok, so if that is the case, where do you locate your transition?
>
> Typically we see that as happening at approx. 1'-0 AFF.
>
> For PVC systems it is often customary to use a Ductile fitting at the base of 
> the riser and come up through the slab with ductile, flange at 12" aff and 
> then transition to steel.
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:29 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Underground transition
>
> Ignoring what many do as the basis for continuing it (like heat vents in a 
> sprinklered building which I Like to say as having legitimacy by longevity), 
> how can one claim that any pipe above the floor is UNDERGROUND? The variables 
> of concern and related tests are based on
> the use and environment that the pipe is exposed to.   Once you pass
> the plane of the floor, wouldn't a different set of concerns apply?
> Bottom line, it is Above Ground pipe and must be listed within that category.
>
> Roland
>
>
> On Mar 11, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Arthur Tiroly wrote:
>
>> Can the transition for the blue brute be just above the floor just as
>> we do for DIP?
>>
>> Arthur Tiroly
>> ATCO Fire Protection Design
>> 3300 King Ave
>> Cleveland, OH 44114
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thom
>> McMahon
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:33 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Underground transition
>>
>> Actually that is true of DIP as well. I once spent several hours on
>> U/L and FM listing sites looking for class 51 or 52 listing for above
>> ground and never found one.
>>
>> Thom McMahon, SET
>> Firetech, Inc.
>> 2560 Copper Ridge Dr
>> P.O. Box 882136
>> Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
>> Tel:  970-879-7952
>> Fax: 970-879-7926
>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: Underground transition
>>
>> Greg, The answer may be found in the listing of the plastic pipe. I
>> believe c-900 is listed for underground use. and not listed for above
>> ground or exposed installation. CPVC is listed for underground as well
>> as exposed use.
>>
>> Greg Schulze wrote:
>>> Is there an AWWA requirement or Plumbing Code that requires the
>>> incoming F/S to be Steel or Ductile Iron Pipe?  Could it be run in
>>> Plastic
>> pipe?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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