YES!

13 has always allowed the use of QR instead of res. Sprinklers in 13 Res.
Occupancies. As 8.4.5.1 says "Residential sprinklers shall be permitted in
dwelling units."

They are not required by 13. We usually try to go that way, because of the 4
head design, but you could use room design instead just as easily. The
problem I always see with room design is the automatic/self closing door.
Without that you pick up additional heads in adjoining spaces. See 11.2.3.3

The other catch I see is the wall rating must = the required water supply.
Because we're "Sprinklered", IBC allows reductions to "Unrated" for many
walls, and 1 hour for required separations. You'll have to prove that the
"Un-rated" walls are = to 30 min water supply.

We as an industry always seem to jump to residential heads for residential
occupancies without consideration to any other method of protection. We have
built this ingrained response that residential occupancy requires
residential sprinklers. It doesn't! There are QR dry pend out there. On a
dry system you could use the QR DP in a residential occupancy. Is that the
best protection? I prefer AF like Chris, but the other option is still
available. Is 4 head residential the best possible protection for all
residential occupancies? I don't think so. Any building that uses TJI's or
Composite wood joist should be a min. 3000 SF design area, regardless of
what heads or design we use. See the TYCO white paper on Composite wood
joist construction, or the Canadian wood products board testing. Is that in
the standard? NO! But it should be! IMHO.

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



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Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:20 PM
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Subject: Re: RESIDENTIAL OCCOPANCY DRY SYSTEM

Thom,

Does that mean that in a hotel protected by an NFPA-13 compliant system that
I could design the system using only quick-response
(non-residential) sprinklers, and thus change the minimum number of
sprinklers flowing in the calculations?

My thinking is that the guest room would certainly be classed as light
hazard, and as long as self-closing doors were present, I would be 
allowed to use the room design method.   Based on that, I could provide 
calculations for only those sprinklers in the room flowing, and because it
is a "small room" as defined by 3.3.15, I would only have to provide the
density of water times the area of the room divided by the number of
sprinklers in the room for minimum flow from each sprinkler, per 
8.6.2.1.2.   That would certainly allow me to use smaller orifice 
sprinklers in the room, and reduce the total water flowing in the room.

Of course, I'd also have provide a corridor calculation based on five
sprinklers flowing, per 11.2.3.3.6, but using SxL I could also 4.2K
sprinklers in the corridor, reducing the water flowing and still keeping the
density provided at the required level for light hazard.

Interesting possibilities.
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Thom McMahon wrote:
> Just as a follow up:
>
> 8.4.5 Residential Sprinklers.
> 8.4.5.1* Residential sprinklers shall be permitted in dwelling units 
> and their adjoining corridors, provided they are installed in 
> conformance with their listing.
> 8.4.5.2 Residential sprinklers shall be used only in wet systems 
> unless specifically listed for use in dry systems or preaction systems.
>
> "Permitted" not required.
>
> Thom McMahon, SET
> Firetech, Inc.
> 2560 Copper Ridge Dr
> P.O. Box 882136
> Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
> Tel:  970-879-7952
> Fax: 970-879-7926
>
>
>
>

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