Yes if the clubhouse is for the sole use of the residence.  And only the A3
gets 13 not necessarily the whole floor.   And no to the concealed spaces.
See 13R '02 2-5.2 the list of 13 things does not include concealed spaces.
Actually annex in '07 6.7.2 is even clearer.   

The real question is who is using the clubhouse.  300 people sounds large
and if they rent to the public for a wedding or something like that
technically the entire building is 13 concealed spaces, attics and all.


Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
 
763-658-4483
763-658-4921 fax
 
Email: [email protected]
 
Mail: P.O. Box 69
        Waverly, MN 55390
 
Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW
              Waverly, MN 55390

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 13 & 13R - same building

How about this scenario for a building with 13 and 13R systems in ICC land:



4 story residential building with attached clubhouse on 1st floor (non-fire
wall separation between clubhouse).  Clubhouse is an A3 occupancy with an
occupant load exceeding 300.   R occupancy requires 13R system however the
A3 occupancy requires a 13 system throughout the "fire area" only per 06 IFC
903.2.1.3.  The 13 system would be provided throughout the 1st floor
(including combustible concealed floor/ceiling assembly) above the 1st floor
is another fire area and therefore would be 13R above.



Yes, no?
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