there are two fine points you jumped over. First, IBC does not require a 13R for residential occupancies. It says per 903.3 which encompasses 13, 13R and 13D so you can use whichever is allowed. Obviously 13D is off the plate since it states in 903.3.1.3 for one and two family dwellings (the fact that IBC is sloppy regarding 13D is a story for a different time). The second point is that 903.3.1.2 for 13R says in BUILDINGS of Group R. Not portions of buildings nor fire areas. The whole enchilada has to qualify for its use.
Now 13R attempts to use predominate in a manner I discussed yesterday. SO for this example, if the club house was for the exclusive use of the residents, then the entire building is 13R and that portion uses a few pieces of 13 but not the combustible spaces or hose stream (as just two big items) since it is a building following 13R. Roland On May 29, 2009, at 9:19 AM, B wrote: > How about this scenario for a building with 13 and 13R systems in > ICC land: > > > > 4 story residential building with attached clubhouse on 1st floor > (non-fire > wall separation between clubhouse). Clubhouse is an A3 occupancy > with an > occupant load exceeding 300. R occupancy requires 13R system > however the > A3 occupancy requires a 13 system throughout the "fire area" only > per 06 IFC > 903.2.1.3. The 13 system would be provided throughout the 1st floor > (including combustible concealed floor/ceiling assembly) above the > 1st floor > is another fire area and therefore would be 13R above. > > > > Yes, no? > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
