Add the cost of surveying and calcing the system to your bid. And if a
bucket test accurately portrays the conditions found in the entire
system (that includes the municipal grid) at all times throughout it's
entire lifetime then That was a scientific poll.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Forest Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
> It is just a method of drawing people to their website.
> It is obviously not a scientific poll, or they would pay a professional
> polling company to conduct the survey.
> If we were talking about NPR, or some other worthy news program it would be
> different. Nobody remembers the 2 minute soundbites they hear on the evening
> news anyway.
>
> On a more important matter: If a system was retrofitted with a backflow, and
> there is no hydraulic calc plaque attached to the riser, and NFPA requires
> forward flow testing of backflows, how can you conduct the test without a
> benchmark to test against?
>
> What is the recommended practice in this scenario?
> Forest Wilson
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Smith, David
> (VFD)
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:20 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Res. Sprinkler Vote - News...
>
> Funny that they indicate the vote closed last night. I entered my vote
> this morning when I arrived at work (PST) and I was only in the mid
> 900's.
>
> Looks like the news station needs to consider their own facts.....where
> do they get their information from????
>
> David M. Smith, Assistant Fire Marshal
> Vancouver Fire Department, Fire Marshal's Office
> 7110 NE 63rd Street
> Vancouver, WA 98661
> 360-487-7240 Phone/Fax
> 360-418-5619 Pager
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Terri
> Leyton
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:59 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Res. Sprinkler Vote - News...
>
> News on the vote from WJAC:
>
>
>
> From:  Raymond W. Lonabaugh, CFPS
>
> Mid-Atlantic Regional Manager
>
> National Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
>
> As you may recall WJAC TV in Johnstown, PA ran a negative story on the
> residential sprinkler adoption in Pennsylvania.  The reporter first
> interviewed a builder then Assistant Fire Chief Jason Ober of the
> Richland Township Fire Company both of whom spoke negatively about the
> residential sprinkler adoption.  Yesterday the TV station ran a poll,
> which closed last night with the results 1069 in favor versus 165
> opposed to sprinklers in new homes.  Ed Mann, PA Fire Commissioner, got
> in contact with Assistant Fire Chief Ober who made the remarks.  The
> chief now claims he was always in favor of sprinklers. John Waters,
> Co-Chair PA Residential Fire Sprinkler Coalition, has sent the reporter
> documentation to rebut her report.  Tim Knisely, Co-Chair PA Residential
> Sprinkler Coalition is attempting to get a rebuttal on the same TV
> station.  It is our hope that in the future the reporter will go after
> both sides of an issue.
>
> ---------------------------
>
> Nice.
>
>
>
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