OK but don't a vast majority of this list know the ball park of the flow.
OHII = 300 + 10-20%.  If you forward flow test a pipe schedule at 350 are
you good?  Let's crank it open to 400 and again I don't think anyone, even
the lawyers, would have a beef if you forward flowed more than required.
For the most part these flow points are off the riser, right?  All that
elevation, end head pressure and friction loss in the pipe is turned into
GPM.  

If you can't get to 400+ don't you think maybe you should be asking
different questions? If you can't get 400 at the riser what are the odds you
can get OHII at the remote area? 

You are allowed all the judgment you want in the buildings that don't burn
down.  Feel free to use it at will.  You are allowed no judgment in the ones
that burn down.  Don't use any in those. Isn't it that simple? LOL.  

Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
 
763-658-4483
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew J.
Willis
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE:Retro Backflow


> On a more important matter: If a system was retrofitted with a backflow,
and
> there is no hydraulic calc plaque attached to the riser, and NFPA requires
> forward flow testing of backflows, how can you conduct the test without a
> benchmark to test against?
>
> What is the recommended practice in this scenario?
> Forest Wilson



>Add the cost of surveying and calcing the system to your bid.
> Ron



You are supposed to do this anyway.

See 8.16.4.6.2 (02 edition)

The annex goes on to mention schedule systems are not required to be
calculated, but the water supply still must be verified...

R/
Matt
 
Matthew J. Willis, CET
Automatic Fire Sprinklers
Norred Fire Systems L.L.C.
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318-387-1163 Facsimile
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