I've seen this argument before.  I bet the "fpe" is saying no more than 8',
right? (I think you are saying you are 4' from the wall and 5' from the
beam.)  It's so illogical I can't even understand how one thinks these
things up.  Had a FM pull this on some EC's calc'ed 16x16 but less than 8'
from the wall was the most recent example.  Just follow SxL as indicated in
the standard noting the words MAXIMUM for spacing to the wall.  "Choose the
larger of EITHER twice the distance to the wall OR the distance to the
next..." 

Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
 
763-658-4483
763-658-4921 fax
 
Email: [email protected]
 
Mail: P.O. Box 69
        Waverly, MN 55390
 
Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW
              Waverly, MN 55390
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff
Whitfield
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Beam obstruction rules

Forum,

I have a question regarding beam obstruction rules for standard spray
uprights.  

I have a light hazard project that has 15" deep beams.  The first beam is 9'
from the wall and the next beam is 17' away from beam #1.  If I space my
first head 5' away from beam #1 so that it is not an obstruction (per table
8.6.5.1.2-NFPA 13, 2007 ed), can my next head be 15' from head #1?  This is
not supposed to be a trick question but I have a disagreement with an FPE on
this.

Thanks for your insight on this one.

Cliff Whitfield, SET
President
Fire Design, Inc.

[email protected]
www.fire-design.com

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: L'il Abner-Mattress Tester

Back in 2007 the CPSC required a fire-resistant outer (fabric) shell on all
mattresses and box springs for sale in the USA.

Is anyone familiar with this to be able to tell if this reduces the
hazardous classification of the foam when stored in a retail store stockroom
to 12' high? Stored on floor, flat, as if prepared for a princess and a pea.

Owner would prefer not to take .2/1500 to .6 for obvious reasons, one being
tenant fitout of a portion of an existing retail center.

George Church
Rowe Sprinkler 


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