http://www.nfpa.org/assets/files//PDF/Proceedings/Review_of_NFPA_13_Dry_System...-D._O'Connor_et_al.pdf

Check out Page 5...as quoted

"4.  Listed Software Development: More software development is needed. The one 
currently available computer program for calculating delivery times, SprinkFDT, 
has been investigated under UL Subject 2432, which requires that calculated 
trip times, transit times, times to operating pressure, and water delivery 
times correlate closely with measured observations of experimental
dry-pipe systems. Actual field experience with using the software program and 
correlating the results to measurements on installed systems corresponding to 
the program model appear to be limited. Documented and undocumented limitations 
in the fluid delivery time software used to
evaluate water delivery time for this report leaves a void in the design 
allowance of NPFA 13 to use a listed program. The software is currently limited 
to tree systems with a single cross main. The software is currently limited to 
tree systems with a single cross main. (Note: At the December
2006 industry meeting, it was reported that the software was under constant 
updating and that the most current release has addressed the "crashing problem" 
and the need to reset the trip time for each iteration.)"

January 2007 or so this was published

FWIW...


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 2:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: DRY SYSTEMS FOR DUMMIES

Sorry but that sounds both Snooty and Arrogant.
Have you verified the engineering used for any other products you may spec.
by any MFG of fire protection products?
How about if this PHD. Happened to be the one who taught you engineering?
Would you then accept his work?
If it really bothers you since you work for what I assume is a "Reputable
Engineering Firm" Write your own program. You could work on it nights, and
then you'd have a nice cushion for retirement.

If it wasn't by us it can't be any good!

I don't pretend to know the math, but I put faith in UL and TYCO and their
Insurer's. (Wonder if they are an AIG company?) In which case your tax
dollars are what's backing up this program.

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



Not so sound snooty or arrogant
All I am saying is I would have a lot more faith in a
water delivery time program if it came from a reputable engineering firm
rather than a manufacturer of sprinkler equipment.

Jim Johnston, P.E.
field)

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