Apron is sloped away, and there are no drainage scuppers within 100'+ of the building.
Greg McGahan Living Water Fire Protection (850) 937.1850 | Fax (850) 937.1852 | Cell (850) 554.3231 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allan Seidel Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 6:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: DELUGE SYSTEMS Does the apron pavement slope away or towards the Concourse? Are the apron pavement drainage scuppers arranged in a way to identify building areas that would not be as exposed to flames as other areas? Allan Seidel St. Louis, MO On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Greg McGahan <[email protected]> wrote: > I am calculating a series of Deluge Systems for exposure protection on an > airport concourse and I have an HONEST question for you engineers out there. > > How important is 5 psi truthfully when you are calculating 43 open 11.2 k > nozzles with a total demand of 1,500 gpm @ approximately 100 psi? > > Due to the orientation (there is an "L" shape where the concourse meets the > main bldg), we have to calculate 350-400' of exposure instead of 300' and we > are running into a brick wall after balancing the individual non-symmetrical > systems (5 of them) when we get within about 5 psi. We have already replaced > the pump with the maximum we can go with the existing concrete encased > conduit. > > The EOR and AHJ are of course relying on us to make this work, etc, etc. > > Thoughts? > > Greg McGahan > > Living Water Fire Protection > (850) 937.1850 | Fax (850) 937.1852 | Cell (850) 554.3231 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod DiBona > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: DRY SYSTEMS FOR DUMMIES > > Exactly but the problem with proving them empirically is that is after the > design and installation. If you "guessed" wrong it will cost ya! > > Rod DiBona > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: DRY SYSTEMS FOR DUMMIES > > So you buy Tyco's program or you empirically prove delivery times. > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Thom McMahon <[email protected]> > wrote: > > If I'm not mistaken there is only one program available and TYCO owns it > and > > the formula's that are used by it. > > Rumor has it that the hired a Noble winning math. Dude locked him up for > > several years until he produced the program they will now rent/sell you. > > > > No this is not public domain information. > > > > Thom McMahon, SET > > Firetech, Inc. > > 2560 Copper Ridge Dr > > P.O. 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