Although I don't have any specifics, I heard there have been cases where the 
main relief valve was improperly set and thus hindering fire fighting 
operations.  The handbook to section 5.7.6.2 (2007 edition) states the reason 
for excluding them is because they are maintenance intensive.

Ken Isman, from that 'other' association, may have more information.  I know he 
was heavily involved with the re-write of this section of code and has been 
involved with the fire pump handbook in the past.

Duane Johnson, PE
Program Manager
Division of the Fire Marshal (Support Contractor)
Office of Research Services 
National Institutes of Health 
301-496-0487


-----Original Message-----
From: Frans Stoop [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Pressure relief valves to flatten the pump curve

Forumites,

NFPA 20 - 2007 par. 5.7.6.2 ( = 2010 par. 4.7.7.2)  says:
"Pressure relief valves and pressure regulating devices in the fire 
pump installation shall not be used as a means to meet the 
requirements of 5.7.6.1." (= 2010 par. 4.7.7.1)

I ask this question because it seems to be not unusual in my country 
to fit fire pumps with a pressure relief valve to limit the churn 
pressure below 175 psi in systems that need a high pressure (e.g. 165 
psi) in the point of operation. Thus flattening the first part of the 
curve up to the point of operation.
This happens to both, engine driven as well as electric driven fire pumps.
In engine driven pumps they use for this purpose the same relief 
valve as mentioned in section 5.18 "Relief Valves for Centrifugal 
Pumps" (= 2010 section 4.18).

Can anyone tell me why this par. 5.7.6.2 says: "shall not be used" ?
Why did the committee put this in the code ?
I remember times when it was not in there.
Is this based on bad experiences?

When I point other technicians to this rule a common response is "Why 
? We do it all the time! "

Can anyone of you shed some light on this issue?

Frans Stoop
TOS architecture & fire protection
Netherlands <[email protected]>
Tel. +31-24-324 0112  

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