Here's a variation on a theme question.

22.4.1.2 (2007) requires that all piping in a hydraulically calculated
system be no less than 1".
Does this mean if you take an older pipe-schedule system and revamp it, or
do, basically, anything that would require hydraulic calculations (add a
fire pump, change occupancy, etc), would you be required to replace all of
the existing 3/4" pipe with 1" pipe?



Benjamin Young



On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C] <
[email protected]> wrote:

> 8.15.19.4.1   When pipe schedule systems are revamped, a nipple not
> exceeding 4 in. (100 mm) in length shall be permitted to be installed in
> the branch line fitting.
>
> 8.15.19.4.2   All piping other than the nipple permitted in 8.15.19.4.1
> and 8.15.19.4.3 shall be a minimum of 1 in. (25 mm) in diameter in
> accordance with Figure 8.15.19.4.2.
>
> 8.15.19.4.3   When it is necessary to pipe two new ceiling sprinklers from
> an existing outlet in an overhead system, the use of a nipple not exceeding
> 4 in. (100 mm) in length and of the same pipe thread size as the existing
> outlet shall be permitted, provided that a hydraulic calculation verifies
> that the design flow rate will be achieved in accordance with Figure
> 8.15.19.4.3.
>
> 8.15.19.4.4   The use of pipe nipples less than 1 in. (25 mm) in diameter
> shall not be permitted where seismic design is required on the system.
>
> Duane Johnson, PE
> Program Manager
> Division of the Fire Marshal (Support Contractor)
> Office of Research Services
> National Institutes of Health
> 301-496-0487
>
> "Protecting Science - One Sprinkler at a Time"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jarron Gass [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 4:55 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: 3/4" Pipe and Sprigs
>
>
>
> Folks,
>
>
>
> I am working on an older building, pipe scheduled system with ¾” pipe at
> the end of some lines as well as ¾” sprigs in some areas.  As best we can
> tell, the bulk of the system is from about 1930.  In NFPA13, 2011 edition
> it says the following:
>
>
>
> 22.4.1.2 Pipe sizes shall be no less than 1 in. (25 mm) nominal
>
> for ferrous piping and 3⁄4 in. (20 mm) nominal for copper
>
> tubing or nonmetallic piping listed for fire sprinkler service.
>
>
>
> This is referencing hydraulic calculations, but I seem to recall that
> there was a requirement somewhere in the standard to remove any ¾” piping
> and replace with 1”.  If so, can anyone point me to the proper section and
> also, would that include the sprigs?  It seems a little frivolous to remove
> the existing 1’-0” long sprigs and install an extra heavy close nipple with
> a ¾” x 1” reducing coupling, a short piece of 1” pipe and another reducing
> coupling.
>
>
>
> I appreciate any input.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Jarron
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jarron J. Gass - J. & J. Fire Protection Co., Inc.
>
> 101 Powell Rd., Butler, PA 16002, (724) 586-6111, fax (724) 586-5151
>
> emergency (724) 898-2481,  <mailto:[email protected]>
> [email protected],  <http://www.jandjfire.com> www.jandjfire.com
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