Charles, it was just a change in wording. The restriction is in 2010 and 
several years before. 

Ron, I'm very glad you made your spelling slip on schedules and not nipples.

Todd G Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, CT
www.fpdc.com
860-535-2080 (ofc)

> On Jan 17, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Charles Thurston <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello Ron,
> 
> Yes Ron that started the thread, I just use it as a transition. I thought 
> they were, but several industrial plumbing shops in Wilmington were unable to 
> find them for me. 
> 
> Todd
> 
> NFPA 13 2013
> 
> 8.15.20.5 Revamping of Hydraulic Design Systems.
> 
> 8.15.20.5.1 When hydraulically designed systems are re-
> vamped, any existing bushing shall be removed and a nipple
> not exceeding 4 in. (100 mm) in length shall be permitted to
> be installed in the branch line fitting.
> 
> 8.15.20.5.2* Calculations shall be provided to verify that the
> system design flow rate will be achieved.
> 
> 8.15.20.5.3 When it is necessary to pipe two new ceiling sprinklers
> from an existing outlet in an overhead system, any bushings
> shall be removed and the use of a nipple not exceeding 4 in.
> (100 mm) in length and of the same pipe thread size as the existing
> outlet shall be permitted, provided that a hydraulic calculation
> verifies that the design flow rate will be achieved.
> 
> | 8.15.20.5.4 Where an armover is attached to connect to a
> | sprinkler, the use of pipe nipples less than 1 in. (25 mm) in
> | diameter shall not be permitted where seismic design is required
> | on the system.
> 
> I don't have my 2010 here to see if 8.15.20.5.3 is in it, But 2013 shows it 
> as a change. This was permitted and started under the 2010 code.
> 
> Yes we seismic brace in the Myrtle Beach Area.
> 
> This is an existing system. 1 1/2" branch with 1/2" outlet "T"s for heads, 
> They added a L/O ceiling 6" below the top of the pipe in the parking deck. 
> Now need to nipple over to a Dry Wax Over Lead (Local Ordnance) Dry Head. 
> Another contractor submitted plans, calcs and got a permit for this a 1/2" 
> Close, 1/2" x 1" 90, 1' Close nipple, 1" T with plug for the head. The other 
> contractor's foreman smarted off to one of the owners and they got thrown off 
> the site. Material is all there, Just need the labor to put it in.
> 
> Friday, January 17, 2014, 5:33:21 PM, you wrote:
> 
>> I thought this was about using 1" st ells in a tight spot, not
>> changing uprights to pendants. And of course you can use them and
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