Craig wrote; "I was not surprised at the first e-mail, that's what I hear all the time... "the plan reviewer approved the plans", (even though they had significant technical errors)."
Craig, here's a question for ya, just finished my sixth cup......if the plan reviewer approved the plans that had significant technical errors what does that say about the technician who designed and the professional engineer who signed em ? .....running for cover. John John Drucker, CET Assistant Construction Official Fire Protection Subcode Official Building/Fire/Electrical Inspector Red Bank, New Jersey -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 2:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: 1/2" and Seismic I was not surprised at the first e-mail, that's what I hear all the time... "the plan reviewer approved the plans", (even though they had significant technical errors). Had me goin' for a minute. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Group Lead CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 2:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 1/2" and Seismic CORRECTION that should read - an approved set of plans does NOT mean it's ok to violate NFPA 13. I've gotta lay off the coffee. Thanks John for the rapid catch and polite direct contact. Roland Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering American Fire Sprinkler Assn. --- Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives Dallas, TX http://www.firesprinkler.org On Jan 20, 2014, at 11:33 AM, Roland Huggins <[email protected]> wrote: > DOn't forget that an approved set of plans means it is ok to violate NFPA 13. All an approved set of plans means is that you have permission to proceed. So, even when approved, if you install it, you are responsible for it being right. Now if there is an existing approved variance, all is golden. > > Roland > > > Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering > American Fire Sprinkler Assn. --- Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives > Dallas, TX > http://www.firesprinkler.org > > > > > > On Jan 17, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Charles Thurston <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This is an existing system. 1 1/2" branch with 1/2" outlet "T"s for heads, They added a L/O ceiling 6" below the top of the pipe in the parking deck. Now need to nipple over to a Dry Wax Over Lead (Local Ordnance) Dry Head. Another contractor submitted plans, calcs and got a permit for this a 1/2" Close, 1/2" x 1" 90, 1' Close nipple, 1" T with plug for the head. The other contractor's foreman smarted off to one of the owners and they got thrown off the site. Material is all there, Just need the labor to put it in. > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
