You would hope someone edited the spec and just didn't leave in the boiler plate stuff (stop laughing) but you can't rely on that being the case. I've seen plenty of specs where all the EQ lingo and requirements were still shown as being required and the Design Category was an "A".
So yeah, I'd launch an RFI for sure. Make someone do the job they were paid to do. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Group Lead CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Mote Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Fredrick MD, Seismic Zone? RFI time, the specifications call for bracing. I was tasked with finding out if bracing is indeed required. I've wasted enough of my time and the forums time. The structural sheet calls it; Risk Category III Seismic Importance Factor 1.25 There are places for about 10 more line of information but they all have X's where there should be data. Richard L. Mote Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Fredrick MD, Seismic Zone? Right. Provisions for seismic protection of buildings and building systems in the IBC and also in NFPA 13 are now all based on ASCE 7. We rolled a new code on 1/1/14, so moved forward to ASCE 7, 2010 here in CA. ASCE standards establish parameters for when a building is required to be seismically engineered. The structural engineer of record for a given project is usually charged - sometimes in conjunction with the soils engineer - with determining whether a particular parcel is subject to those provisions. As Travis says, seismic has changed; IMHO, it's not for the sprinkie to determine if seismic protection is required, only to verify with the SEOR or through the construction documents whether or not it's required. Steve Leyton -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis Mack Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Fredrick MD, Seismic Zone? Seismic has changed DRASTICALLY from what we used to do. The SE will have to provide you the structural design category and the Ss for the project. Hopefully it is SDC of A or B and you don't have to worry about anything. But, it is definitely no longer 40' / 80' and 4 way every change in direction. Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC 2508 E Lodgepole Drive Gilbert, AZ 85298 480-505-9271 fax: 866-430-6107 email:[email protected] On 1/23/2014 9:38 AM, Richard Mote wrote: > Structural design notes sheet is no help, we are sending an RFI for clarification. I haven't had to worry about seismic locally for about 10.5 years so I am not as well versed as I should be. > > Richard L. Mote > Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Travis Mack > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:17 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Fredrick MD, Seismic Zone? > > What does the structural design notes sheet provide? Is it Seismic Category C or higher. If so, bracing is required on fire sprinkler systems. I don't think the seismic maps really apply any longer. You need to know the Seismic Design Category, then you need the Ss values so you can calculate your bracing. > > Travis Mack, SET > MFP Design, LLC > 2508 E Lodgepole Drive > Gilbert, AZ 85298 > 480-505-9271 > fax: 866-430-6107 > email:[email protected] > > On 1/23/2014 9:15 AM, Richard Mote wrote: >> Can someone with experience in the area tell me if Seismic bracing is required in Fredrick Maryland? (21701) According to the maps I found online at appears to be the same seismic category as central PA, but not having worked in the area before I wanted to be sure there wasn't some local requirement. >> >> Richard L. 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