Haha. I just got this... Something screwy is going on with their servers. Duane Johnson, PE Program Manager Division of the Fire Marshal (Contractor) Office of Research Services National Institutes of Health 301-496-0487
"Protecting Science - One Sprinkler at a Time" -----Original Message----- From: John Denhardt [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:57 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Swimming Pools RFI Bingo. If The building needs to be sprinklered, the entire building is required unless there's an exception for an area. Thanks, John August Denhardt P.E. > On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:51 PM, "rongreenman ." <[email protected]> wrote: > > The specific citation is that all areas need to be sprinklered. Couple > that to all the areas that are specifically exempted, pools not being > one, and the only possible interpretation is that pool areas must be > sprinklered. > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:28 PM, ParsleyConsulting <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Jerry, >> The only reference I could find in NFPA 13 is not a direct >> requirement, but rather is annex material to support 6.2.6.1on areas >> where corrosion resistant sprinklers are required. One of the >> examples is "areas over and around swimming pools", which sort of >> suggest those areas are to be sprinklered. >> I haven't looked at the Building or Fire Code. >> * >> >> PARSLEY CONSULTING >> >> * >> >> Ken Wagoner >> >> 760.745.6181 voice >> >> 760.745.0537 fax >> >> website: www.ParsleyConsulting.com <http://www.ParsleyConsulting.com> >> >> >>> On 1/22/2014 2:19 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>> >>> Guyz/Gals: >>> >>> >>> I know that, at one time, there was a 'blurb' about sprinkler >>> protection over swimming pool areas. We have just spent a fairly >>> significant amount of time looking for the 'requirement' in recent >>> editions of 13 - and have been unable to find a specific citation. >>> Aside from "all areas are required to be sprinklered..." can anyone >>> assist us with a specific reference to swimming pool areas >>> (hotel/motels, et al) - in any Code - needing to be sprinkler >>> protected. I remember reading about the possibility of the pool >>> being emptied and the pool itself and/or surrounding areas being used for >>> 'storage' of combustible materials, but that was years ago... >>> >>> >>> >>> Any assistance will be much appreciated - we are performing a >>> third-party review and our PE/FPE is stuck. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards to All. Gracias!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Jerry >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> Jerry D. Watts, SFPE >>> President & Co-Founder >>> ACCENT FIRE ENGINEERING INT'L. Ltd. >>> Santa Fe, New Mexico USA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Brian Harris <[email protected]> >>> To: sprinklerforum <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wed, Jan 22, 2014 3:09 pm >>> Subject: RE: Reusing Heads >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Brian Harris, CET >>> BVS Systems Inc. >>> bvssytemsinc.com >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto: >>> [email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of Steve Leyton >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:34 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Reusing Heads >>> >>> It's also in NFPA 25 for good measure. >>> >>> >>> Steve Leyton >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Morey, Mike >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:25 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Reusing Heads >>> >>> In 2013 6.2.1 (and added clarification in section 6.2.1.1) >>> >>> Mike Morey, CFPS, SET >>> Planner Scheduler/Designer >>> BMWC Constructors, Inc. >>> 1740 W. Michigan St, Indianapolis, IN 46222 >>> O: 317.651.0596 | C: 317.586.8111 >>> [email protected] | www.bmwc.com >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: [email protected] >>> [[email protected]] on behalf of Brian >>> Harris [[email protected]] >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:17 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Reusing Heads >>> >>> I know I've seen it somewhere but can someone point me to the >>> section of >>> NFPA-13 that says once you remove a head you have to replace it with >>> a new one? >>> >>> Brian Harris, CET >>> BVS Systems Inc. >>> Sprinkler Division >>> bvssystemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/> >>> Phone: 704.896.9989 >>> Fax: 704.896.1935 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprin >>> kler >>> .org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprin >>> kler >>> .org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler. >>> org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler. >>> org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler. >>> org >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler. >> org > > > > -- > Ron Greenman > Instructor > Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College > 1101 So. 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