Andy, I imagine a Dry System air compressor kicking on and off when it's 90F and I think waste of energy and an expansion chamber on an AF system only needed when it's hot as a waste of money. Freeze protection is only needed a few months a year I most places. We need a 3rd option!
> On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Andy <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mixing was from years past. I believe the reports. I just passed on a job > because I would only do a dry system. > Andy > > > >> On Jan 29, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> No Scott please don't tell me how it ends, I have not seen it yet ;) >> seriously, I saw your name on that final report- are you totally Anti Anti >> freeze now, no if ands or buts? >> >>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Scott A Futrell <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> A child lit a couch on fire with matches and the sprinkler operated with >>> the resulting fireball injuring her and her mother. Official damage >>> report: limited to point of origin, except for signs and damage from >>> explosion - windows blown out remote from the ignition. >>> >>> Do we need to say more Brad? >>> >>> Scott Futrell >>> >>> (763) 425-1001 x12 Office >>> (612) 759-5556 Cell >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad >>> Casterline >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:43 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: NFPA 25 & Antifreeze Comment(s) RETORT >>> >>> I doubt it offends anyone. I think the biggest factor is the size of the >>> fire-- I think I could could set a wadded up pile of shop drawings on fire >>> ( appropriate for many jobs I drew) and put the fire out with 100% AF. But >>> I would not want to pour it out on 30,000, 100 watt light bulbs :) >>> >>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Andy-Johnston <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> After reading my last post. It was not ment to be continuous. Only express >>>> my fears of the short cuts the installers may take in the field. >>>> Not ment to offend. >>>> Andy >>>> >>>> -------- Original message -------- >>>> From: Brad Casterline <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 01/29/2014 12:51 PM (GMT-05:00) >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: RE: NFPA 25 & Antifreeze Comment(s) RETORT >>>> >>>> Good point, I guess for pre-mixed we would not, we would just keep >>>> pumping it in until it was full, never mind, thanks Roland... >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Roland Huggins [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:41 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: NFPA 25 & Antifreeze Comment(s) RETORT >>>> >>>> HUH???? What does the system volume have to do with it? >>>> >>>> >>>> Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering >>>> American Fire Sprinkler Assn. --- Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives >>>> Dallas, TX >>>> http://www.firesprinkler.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 28, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> And this focus on 'percent by volume' has got to be the silliest >>>>> aspect of >>>> this whole mess, as if we know the exact cubic feet of the inside of >>>> all the pipe and fittings ;) >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl >>>> er.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl >>>> er.org _______________________________________________ >>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl >>>> er.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
