I'm sure future head makers could come up with an RTI so good that 20 seconds 
after Van Dame stuck a lit cigarette to it with chewing gum every head in the 
place would be ready to flow, but what good is that if the water takes 2 
minutes to get there or the stuff that is right there is mixed with fuel?

> On Jan 29, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Andy, I imagine a Dry System air compressor kicking on and off when it's 90F 
> and I think waste of energy and an expansion chamber on an AF system only 
> needed when it's hot as a waste of money. Freeze protection is only needed a 
> few months a year I most places. We need a 3rd option!
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Mixing was from years past. I believe the reports. I just passed on a job 
>> because I would only do a dry system. 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No Scott please don't tell me how it ends, I have not seen it yet ;) 
>>> seriously, I saw your name on that final report- are you totally Anti Anti 
>>> freeze now, no if ands or buts?
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Scott A Futrell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> A child lit a couch on fire with matches and the sprinkler operated with 
>>>> the resulting fireball injuring her and her mother.  Official damage 
>>>> report: limited to point of origin, except for signs and damage from 
>>>> explosion - windows blown out remote from the ignition.
>>>> 
>>>> Do we need to say more Brad?
>>>> 
>>>> Scott Futrell
>>>> 
>>>> (763) 425-1001 x12 Office
>>>> (612) 759-5556 Cell
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad 
>>>> Casterline
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:43 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: NFPA 25 & Antifreeze Comment(s) RETORT
>>>> 
>>>> I doubt it offends anyone. I think the biggest factor is the size of the 
>>>> fire-- I think I could could set a wadded up pile of shop drawings on fire 
>>>> ( appropriate for many jobs I drew) and put the fire out with 100% AF. But 
>>>> I would not want to pour it out on 30,000, 100 watt light bulbs :)
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Andy-Johnston <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> After reading my last post. It was not ment to be continuous. Only 
>>>>> express my fears of the short cuts the installers may take in the field. 
>>>>> Not ment to offend. 
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> 
>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>> From: Brad Casterline <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: 01/29/2014  12:51 PM  (GMT-05:00)
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: RE: NFPA 25 & Antifreeze Comment(s) RETORT
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good point, I guess for pre-mixed we would not, we would just keep 
>>>>> pumping it in until it was full, never mind, thanks Roland...
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Roland Huggins [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:41 AM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: NFPA 25 & Antifreeze Comment(s) RETORT
>>>>> 
>>>>> HUH????  What does the system volume have to do with it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering
>>>>> American Fire Sprinkler Assn.       ---      Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives
>>>>> Dallas, TX
>>>>> http://www.firesprinkler.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 28, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> And this focus on 'percent by volume' has got to be the silliest 
>>>>>> aspect of
>>>>> this whole mess, as if we know the exact cubic feet of the inside of 
>>>>> all the pipe and fittings ;)
>>>>> 
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